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Old 06-19-2008, 08:03 PM
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finished up the track, what a shocker.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:04 PM
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horse never lifted a hoof, even saved every inch of ground and not even a slight late move.....we need more articles like that one.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:05 PM
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finished up the track, what a shocker.

Yeah, but it was a key race, so what did you expect.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:09 PM
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Yeah, but it was a key race, so what did you expect.
not sure if you're joking around, but it could turn out to be a key race.
several of the others were flying along and looked sharp.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:16 PM
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Bet the one horse when he runs on real dirt.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:16 PM
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not sure if you're joking around, but it could turn out to be a key race.
several of the others were flying along and looked sharp.

I honestly think predicting races will be key races is about as laughably a stupid concept as I have ever heard in racing.

Key races, by their very nature, can't be uncovered until horses run back. And, furthermore, a true key race is NOT ( necessarily ) one where two or more horses win their following starts.

But, hey, people should believe what they want to believe.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:19 PM
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I honestly think predicting races will be key races is about as laughably a stupid concept as I have ever heard in racing.

Key races, by their very nature, can't be uncovered until horses run back. And, furthermore, a true key race is NOT ( necessarily ) one where two or more horses win their following starts.

But, hey, people should believe what they want to believe.
Supposed "key" races usually have a lot more to do with where the trainers spot the horses next out. I think these days, the only real edge is if you think a race is getting a speed figure that comes back lower than the horses are capable of running, for whatever reason.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:20 PM
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Supposed "key" races usually have a lot more to do with where the trainers spot the horses next out. I think these days, the only real edge is if you think a race is getting a speed figure that comes back lower than the horses are capable of running, for whatever reason.

Right, there are so many factors involved, and as usual, people oversimplify them, mostly because they're lazy, and miss out on what's really good ( while falling prey to what is bad ).
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:23 PM
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I honestly think predicting races will be key races is about as laughably a stupid concept as I have ever heard in racing.

Key races, by their very nature, can't be uncovered until horses run back. And, furthermore, a true key race is NOT ( necessarily ) one where two or more horses win their following starts.

But, hey, people should believe what they want to believe.
of course, did someone call it a key race beforehand?
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:25 PM
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of course, did someone call it a key race beforehand?
Not if you use the ignore button correctly.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:28 PM
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i thought zaftigs msw win at gs was a key race..i was correct......
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:35 PM
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Not if you use the ignore button correctly.
oh, now i see where that came from. i guess my eye has developed a built-in auto-ignore because i had passed right over that one.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:36 PM
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Not if you use the ignore button correctly.
zing!
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:06 PM
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They need to breed her back to Indian Charlie...

Or maybe even Saarland.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:16 AM
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They need to breed her back to Indian Charlie...

Or maybe even Saarland.
I realize you are probably being facetious, but to anyone with half a brain, it is completely obvious which parent Indian Blessing gets her ability from.

However.

I bet you they ship east with this horse, like they did with IB.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:47 PM
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[quote=ArlJim78]finished up the track, what a shocker.[
i actually was shocked.. thought he'd run a lot better then that.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:51 PM
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i actually was shocked.. thought he'd run a lot better then that.
Based on what?
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:55 PM
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Based on what?
are you serious ? based on everything!!! not saying he should have won, just saying he should have ran better.. why are you always on me ?

reassons he should have run better...
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:54 PM
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i actually was shocked.. thought he'd run a lot better then that.
how would you have any idea in advance how he was going to run? only believe what you see and not trainerspeak or other forms of hype or misinformation.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:56 PM
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how would you have any idea in advance how he was going to run? only believe what you see and not trainerspeak or other forms of hype or misinformation.
well at 1-1, he is expected to run better then he did, correct ?
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