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06-19-2008, 09:23 AM
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Rep. Cliff Stearns (Ocala, FL)
"Those making a fortune..." Gee Cliff... Who exactly is making "a fortune" in racing? And why do they keep referencing "cocaine given to horses"? An obscurity designed to sensationalize undoubtedly...
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06-19-2008, 09:33 AM
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"Completely bi-partisan" says Schakowsky... Yup.. They are all equally clueless about the topic.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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06-19-2008, 09:34 AM
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"Completly Bipartisan" It's nice to know that horse racing has brought the Dems and Reps togther! (Beat me by a minute!)
PS: Steve thanks for the comments yesterday about Royal Ascot. Got that going as well. Interesting morning! Spydee
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06-19-2008, 11:41 AM
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It is not a court of law, just a committee hearing. Therefore people are able to express their opinions, frequently without having any data or facts to back it up. I have personally watched as people have outright lied in committee hearings to push forth their agenda. The only recourse is to contact legislators and tell them a person has no facts to back up their testimony, sometimes they listen sometimes they don't. Unfortunately I missed the hearing will have to wait for the archives, but this thread doesn't make it sound very good. And as to the question of why this is so bad, there are many reasons. First and foremost this hearing was brought about by Ed Whitfield who is on this committee, actually I personally suspect by his wife's urging, who is serving as the Vice Chairman of the KHRA and is also a senior VP and lead fundraiser for the HSUS. These 2 positions are diometrically opposed. Whether or not anyone wishes to believe it the HSUS and all other Animal RIGHTS, not welfare groups, true agenda would be to abolish horse racing, then they would move on to jumps, dressage etc. They want all horses just wandering around with nothing to do, to them that is caring for the horses. I would also bet Ed Whitfield couldn't get any other committee to hear it, so he brought it to his own committee. This IS how our political system works. Additionally part of the problem is you have fat cat politicians hearing testimony on something most of them have no knowledge of anything about horse racing, or for that matter probably have never touched a race horse or seen the backside. On top of that they have handpicked the witnesses who obviously have an agenda. I did not hear the testimony but by just looking at the witness list you have people that are totally anti-meds, Randy Moss as we know is anti-whip. It would be one thing if they truly had non-biased witnesses that were there to give factual, scientific information. I could live with a ruling that the Fed mandates all state horse racing associations must join together and come up with a formula that is applicable in all states, therefore leaving it in the hands of the horsemen and track personel that deal with these issues on a day to day basis and actually understand the problems. BUT that is not what is about to happen. Believe me I know how this works, I have sat and testified in many, albiet State, committes and task forces then watched as they voted on the bills many really didn't understand what they were voting for or the reprucussions. On top of this what the heck is the ENERGY AND COMMERCE committee hearing about so called horse abuse when the dollar is out of control and gas prices are sky high. Just more political rehotric to appease the people with little to do but go help the poor horsies because the owners, trainers and handlers don't know how to treat them right. It is a sham and just the usual politics in order to get our minds off the true causes that affect our country.
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06-19-2008, 09:36 AM
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Schakowsky is lying. Joe Drape reports that he knows Dutrow called Whitfield's office.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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06-19-2008, 09:43 AM
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Just off phone with Former KY Governor Brereton Jones... He will join me tonight on 'At the Races' at 4pm..
He isn't bothering to listen to the hearings. As he said, "When I saw who they were calling, I knew the fix was in..."
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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06-19-2008, 09:48 AM
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shapiro poster boy for the cause.. mullins crying in corner
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06-19-2008, 09:28 AM
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Believe previous Rep. was Lee Terry (NE)... Clearly a fan.
Now Joe Pitts.. Pennsylvania... They are specifically trying to characterize ANY MEDICATION/INJECTION as ABUSE OF HORSES.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 06-19-2008 at 09:45 AM.
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