Best race in Delaware Park history???

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

heatseeker
first samurai

First Samurai is retired. Heatseeker is an older horse that has thrived on synthetic surfaces, and did not win a stakes race here until he was 5; he's not going to change Giant's Causeway's perception. GC needs to produce a good 2YO or 3YO on conventional dirt or his stock will continue to fall.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

First Samurai is retired. Heatseeker is an older horse that has thrived on synthetic surfaces, and did not win a stakes race here until he was 5; he's not going to change Giant's Causeway's perception. GC needs to produce a good 2YO or 3YO on conventional dirt or his stock will continue to fall.

first sam, he was a great 2 yr old... on conventional dirt... and with racing now a days, major meets like keenland on synthatic, i dont really think it matters.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

first sam, he was a great 2 yr old... on conventional dirt... and with racing now a days, major meets like keenland on synthatic, i dont really think it matters.

If the fact that he hasn't produced a top 2YO or 3YO dirt horse in this country in the past three years doesn't matter (First Samurai was in his first crop), then why then has his advertised stud fee dropped from $300,000 to $125,000?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If the fact that he hasn't produced a top 2YO or 3YO dirt horse in this country in the past three years doesn't matter (First Samurai was in his first crop), then why then has his advertised stud fee dropped from $300,000 to $125,000?

125 is a bargain

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

125 is a bargain

hell no it isn't.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Danzig

hell no it isn't.

i disagree.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

125 is a bargain

I'll stipulate that he was a tremendous racehorse, but let's look at the following facts as a stallion: 31% winners from foals; 5% stakes-winners; median earnings of $14,599; and an AEI of 1.98 versus a CI of 3.55. That hardly qualifies as a "bargain" at $125,000.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I'll stipulate that he was a tremendous racehorse, but let's look at the following facts as a stallion: 31% winners from foals; 5% stakes-winners; median earnings of $14,599; and an AEI of 1.98 versus a CI of 3.55. That hardly qualifies as a "bargain" at $125,000.

that's a crappy ROI. he'd be declaring bankruptcy if he was a business.