Arlington Million/The race

GPK · #1 08-11-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000

If English Channel goes to the front or is anywhere near the front there is no way he wins....I agree with Gander I kinda like Better Talk Know, there should be enough pace, with a firm turf and a course that favors closers he has a great shot.

JV learned the lesson last year with EC. He knows that he needs to be 3-4 lengths off the leader to give it his run. EC has to have a target to run at, plain and simple.

dr. fager · #2 08-11-2006, 09:41 AM

I thought the same thing in the United Nations....but he rated....didn't like it one bit...but did it anyway....

Cajungator26 · #3 08-11-2006, 09:41 AM

With me as his jockey, Phoenix Reach will be blowing by English Channel, Cacique and Better Talk Now.

zippyneedsawin · #4 08-11-2006, 09:48 AM

I'll be using EC, Cacique, and the Euros in the Pick-4.. I'm tossing BTN and Tin Man.

#5 08-11-2006, 09:55 AM

This race is perfect for the Europeans coming over. Really not much pace with the exception of The Tin Man. Europeans love looping along with a pack of horses and then sprinting to the finish line. The Tin Man might get some pressure from Cosmonaut but I really doubt it. Now with so many mid pack runners, traffic is going to be a huge issue. The key to this race (and most races) is going to be the trip the horses get. Therefore this becomes a jockeys race. I think the European horses have an advantage in this type of race. The two Europeans that I love in this race are Ace and even thought Rene is riding, I love Soldier Hollow. I like Cacique, but I am not going to get much value on him and I have him having an equal chance of winning with Ace and Soldier Hollow. So I will take the the two value plays.

NOTE: Dont be surpised to see The Tin Man go wire to wire.

Danzig · #6 08-11-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

This race is perfect for the Europeans coming over. Really not much pace with the exception of The Tin Man. Europeans love looping along with a pack of horses and then sprinting to the finish line. The Tin Man might get some pressure from Cosmonaut but I really doubt it. Now with so many mid pack runners, traffic is going to be a huge issue. The key to this race (and most races) is going to be the trip the horses get. Therefore this becomes a jockeys race. I think the European horses have an advantage in this type of race. The two Europeans that I love in this race are Ace and even thought Rene is riding, I love Soldier Hollow. I like Cacique, but I am not going to get much value on him and I have him having an equal chance of winning with Ace and Soldier Hollow. So I will take the the two value plays.

NOTE: Dont be surpised to see The Tin Man go wire to wire.

it may not be a perfect set up for the euros...they generally prefer a course with cut in the ground, and turfers are very, very picky about their ground. if it doesn't suit, they won't run as well..you can see some really good turf horses look like cheap claimers if they don't like the course.

and yeah, they love to lope early and close with a rush...if the tin man can set an easy, relaxed pace, affirmed will be moving back up the sires list. and THAT i would love to see!

Scav · #7 08-11-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

JV learned the lesson last year with EC. He knows that he needs to be 3-4 lengths off the leader to give it his run. EC has to have a target to run at, plain and simple.

Last year was not JV's fault, horse broke like **** and needed to be rushed up, I KNOW THE race all too well because I needed it for a $200 pick three ticket that I had 10 times. FRIGGIN RAT, he better redeem himself this year, or he will start getting SHANE LAVIOLLETE TYPE PAIN

GPK · #8 08-11-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Last year was not JV's fault, horse broke like **** and needed to be rushed up, I KNOW THE race all too well because I needed it for a $200 pick three ticket that I had 10 times. FRIGGIN RAT, he better redeem himself this year, or he will start getting SHANE LAVIOLLETE TYPE PAIN

maybe he needed to be rushed up some, but NOT ON THE LEAD. Needs to be a touch further back.

Scav · #9 08-11-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

maybe he needed to be rushed up some, but NOT ON THE LEAD. Needs to be a touch further back.

the horse wouldn't settle. watch the race again if you can. friggin rat, 3/5 and gets beat by a horse that will never win again....RAT

GPK · #10 08-11-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

the horse wouldn't settle. watch the race again if you can. friggin rat, 3/5 and gets beat by a horse that will never win again....RAT

Definite rat...I don't know why they continue to race EC...

Scav · #11 08-11-2006, 10:10 AM

Should have retired him after the Secretariat last year, disgrace.

You have heard it here NOW. Gorella is a toss from my pick three ticket...will be included on the backside of my exacta ticket though

GPK · #12 08-11-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Should have retired him after the Secretariat last year, disgrace.

You have heard it here NOW. Gorella is a toss from my pick three ticket...will be included on the backside of my exacta ticket though

I know...he hasn't won crap this year...