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Old 06-16-2008, 08:47 PM
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I know the first one was 1 1/8th at Saratoga, just missed the tr.

There was also only a quinella on the race which was annoying. What did he run....1:47 2/5?

He won his following start at one mile at Belmont, then he beat Ma Maison at 6F at Belmont, and then he finished second to Slew o Gold in the Woodward.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:50 PM
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Can you imagine the rancor on board like this when Oscar was performing miracles?
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:52 PM
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Can you imagine the rancor on board like this when Oscar was performing miracles?

Rancor? Oscar was like an ATM. You could bet $11 doubles with impugnity. Plus, he had moves, like turnbacks on short rest with blinker changes that were gold.

Of course, there will never be anything like Bob Debonis blinkers off. And I mean NEVER.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:54 PM
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The golden age...
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:56 PM
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The golden age...
No doubt. That's when the cheaters were GOOD.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:16 AM
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Exactly. Now, as soon as Baffert realizes what a mistake he made skipping the Belmont with her, we'll be all set.

It must be keeping him up at night. After all, we know she's better than Da Tara, and she can outrun him.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:38 PM
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To be serious for a second, what did you think of Pyro's effort? I wasn't blown away, but with a minor step forward isn't he still right there among 3 year olds this year?
He's OK. All things considered, he could be a factor in 3YO races later this year. We'll see.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:06 PM
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This is one of the funniest posts in the history of the world. I really mean that. I can't see though why Baffert would have considered for more than a nanosecond for the Belmont Stakes. Her loss in Louisiana didn't inspire confidence that she wanted to go further.
Hey, don't sell yourself short, I think your post is even funnier!
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:46 PM
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Her loss in Louisiana didn't inspire confidence that she wanted to go further.
Neither did anything she did BEFORE that race....as I think about 40 of us tried to tell you at that time.
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:25 PM
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But what everyone else didn't seem to understand was that I don't base on projections. Whether or not she wanted to run a single step futher than 8 or 8.5f was irrelevant at that point to me. What was relevant was that up to that point and distance, she had proven as much as anyone else in the crop had. But it's really not worth getting into this debate again.

Just one last thing though. Races at 10f aren't the only things I consider when evaluating. They also run races at distances of 6f, 7f, 8f, and 9f. I feel that at the distances that the majority of races are run for 3yo's, she's still arguably in the top five of 3yo's this year. I'd take her over Pyro if both were running in the Dwyer. Of course, I'd take that horse that beat her in her last over both of them. And the other horse that's beaten her, Proud Spell, I'd take her too. Both of the ones that have beaten her are no slouches and make cases for themselves to be considered top five 3yo's this year too.
Really?
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:29 PM
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But what everyone else didn't seem to understand was that I don't base on projections. Whether or not she wanted to run a single step futher than 8 or 8.5f was irrelevant at that point to me. What was relevant was that up to that point and distance, she had proven as much as anyone else in the crop had. But it's really not worth getting into this debate again.

Just one last thing though. Races at 10f aren't the only things I consider when evaluating. They also run races at distances of 6f, 7f, 8f, and 9f. I feel that at the distances that the majority of races are run for 3yo's, she's still arguably in the top five of 3yo's this year. I'd take her over Pyro if both were running in the Dwyer. Of course, I'd take that horse that beat her in her last over both of them. And the other horse that's beaten her, Proud Spell, I'd take her too. Both of the ones that have beaten her are no slouches and make cases for themselves to be considered top five 3yo's this year too.
SHE IS 100% top 5, and shes a champion, ppl fail to understand that
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