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Old 06-15-2008, 08:42 PM
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This is where understanding the concept BEHIND 'ENTRY' comes into play. I mean you can understand how to go about running an entry but you also need to grasp the concept. Penna understood it in the 5th, and won the race. Yesterday, DONK didn't understand it, and lost the race. 2 weeks ago, Cornelio (and Mott) failed to grasp it, and it cost them a win as well.


You can't honestly think the pace cost Spurred the race? He didn't run a step and the winner was winning no matter what. The second horse was the one hurt the most by the pace.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:09 PM
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You can't honestly think the pace cost Spurred the race? He didn't run a step and the winner was winning no matter what. The second horse was the one hurt the most by the pace.
I'm basing this on a single viewing of the race but I do, actually, think that Spurred had absolutely NO shot given the way the race played out. Look at the chart: he's the only horse gaining the first three splits; the last of which gutted him. He was forced to run at the worst point in the race; and he was wide.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:36 PM
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How exactly does Linda Rice decide to do this? She has two horses, owned by different owners who probably put up at least $1500 to run. They finished noses apart about a month ago and are now entered in the richest turf sprint of the year in New York. With a limited number of starts per year, I seriously doubt that either owner would be willing to sacrifice his horse for the other. If they were owned by the same connections, that would be one thing, but in this case they weren't, suggesting that this post was clueless.
Well. I think you have a point. Before the race it wasn't obvious which of the two horses was better. I'm sure Rice had no idea, given the recent form of the two.

And, Rice certainly wouldn't want to have a situation where she'd actually venture an honest opinion before the race to the owners. So, the best way to handle this, all around, would be to let Silver Timber get a 'workout', looking at asses, at the rear of the pack, 'cause this is DISTINCTLY different from getting a workout with the pace for a quarter mile; and Mohegan Sky to get an ass kicking chasing the pace. And, the sweetest thing of all is that you're CONCEDING the race to the chalk and Bobby Frankel. I'm sure he appreciates it.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:32 PM
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Silver Timber was supplemented in by the way. . . not sure how that could be relevant but it's worth noting I guess.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:08 PM
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I'm basing this on a single viewing of the race but I do, actually, think that Spurred had absolutely NO shot given the way the race played out. Look at the chart: he's the only horse gaining the first three splits; the last of which gutted him. He was forced to run at the worst point in the race; and he was wide.
looking at that chart it looks like a pretty big move into that fast quarter.
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