Saturdays Top Performers ?

ateamstupid · #1 06-15-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think there were a lot of smoke and mirrors with his performance Friday.

It was a trip very similar to the one that yielded a 119 Beyer for Commentator and a 118 Beyer for Monterary Jazz - all allowed a free ride on an uncontested lead through very moderate fractions going a middle distance.

I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

jcs11204 · #2 06-15-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

do we really care about mint lane ? and if hes so good, then what is casino drive ? the best horse in the world ?

ateamstupid · #3 06-15-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

do we really care about mint lane ? and if hes so good, then what is casino drive ? the best horse in the world ?

Yeah, because that totally has to be the case if Mint Lane turns out to be good. I care about Mint Lane. You don't have to, but considering your tendency to fall in love with every horse that wins a three-year-old stakes, it's interesting that you don't care about a horse that blew a 106 Beyer.

jcs11204 · #4 06-15-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, because that totally has to be the case if Mint Lane turns out to be good. I care about Mint Lane. You don't have to, but considering your tendency to fall in love with every horse that wins a three-year-old stakes, it's interesting that you don't care about a horse that blew a 106 Beyer.

i dont have a tendency... i did not like the horse mint lane beat... i thought he was way overhyped... i feel in love with casino drive, because he was freaky good, and now mint lane was freaky good, so what does that mean for casino drive ?

hockey2315 · #5 06-15-2008, 09:55 PM

Casino Drive wasn't "freaky good" and Mint Lane's performance was just "freaky" - possibly an aberration.

jcs11204 · #6 06-15-2008, 10:20 PM

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Casino Drive wasn't "freaky good" and Mint Lane's performance was just "freaky" - possibly an aberration.

i disagree... casino drive, second career race.. first vs winners... first in this country.... connections say he was 80% fit.. and he ran that race... what was he then ?

Cannon Shell · #7 06-15-2008, 10:57 PM

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i disagree... casino drive, second career race.. first vs winners... first in this country.... connections say he was 80% fit.. and he ran that race... what was he then ?

I wish I knew some japanese...

hockey2315 · #8 06-15-2008, 11:25 PM

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i disagree... casino drive, second career race.. first vs winners... first in this country.... connections say he was 80% fit.. and he ran that race... what was he then ?

Big deal - he ran a 101 beyer vs. bad horses (unless Mint Lane miraculously became a good horse over night) with an easy set-up. . . how was that "superfreaky" or whatever you called it. . . and then what happened to him? I know the connections say he's coming back for the Breeder's Cup - but I'd be shocked if we ever see him here again. He's fragile and unproven and I refuse to call him a monster at this point (so I'll also take back my praise of UB's Heart - he's probably nothing special).

ateamstupid · #9 06-15-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

i dont have a tendency... i did not like the horse mint lane beat... i thought he was way overhyped... i feel in love with casino drive, because he was freaky good, and now mint lane was freaky good, so what does that mean for casino drive ?

You didn't like the horse Mint Lane beat? Weren't you hyping up Admirality before the race?

jcs11204 · #10 06-15-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You didn't like the horse Mint Lane beat? Weren't you hyping up Admirality before the race?

yes, i mean the other one
whatever heat or heart, 3rd place finisher

jcs11204 · #11 06-15-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You didn't like the horse Mint Lane beat? Weren't you hyping up Admirality before the race?

also i would not say hyping.. i thought he could win with a good setup, when contessa's speed scratched, i backed off a bit

jcs11204 · #12 06-15-2008, 10:23 PM

deleware has a nice card tomorrow...

Cannon Shell · #13 06-15-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, because that totally has to be the case if Mint Lane turns out to be good. I care about Mint Lane. You don't have to, but considering your tendency to fall in love with every horse that wins a three-year-old stakes, it's interesting that you don't care about a horse that blew a 106 Beyer.

Il est si stupide qu'il n'arrivait pas a comprendre

The Indomitable DrugS · #14 06-15-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

Every horse was under mild restraint and MSW fillies went a full second faster to the half earlier in the card.

If the figure is to be believed - the horse that impressed me in there was Unbridled's Heart. I was a little skeptical of him - but if the fig is true he's pretty good.

ateamstupid · #15 06-15-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Every horse was under mild restraint and MSW fillies went a full second faster to the half earlier in the card.

If the figure is to be believed - the horse that impressed me in there was Unbridled's Heart. I was a little skeptical of him - but if the fig is true he's pretty good.

Yeah, and that led to a near last-to-first winner at 32-1.

Plus in the other two dirt races, the fractions were VERY slow, and the track had been playing slowly for days.

I'm not saying he flew, but I'd call his pace quicker than average.

The Indomitable DrugS · #16 06-15-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, and that led to a near last-to-first winner at 32-1.

Plus in the other two dirt races, the fractions were VERY slow, and the track had been playing slowly for days.

I'm not saying he flew, but I'd call his pace quicker than average.

He was unopposed on a clear lead under mild rating and making his own pace - when that happens again in one of his races let me know.

ateamstupid · #17 06-16-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He was unopposed on a clear lead under mild rating and making his own pace - when that happens again in one of his races let me know.

It's happened in nearly every single one of his races, so why couldn't it happen again? Are you saying he just keeps running into fields with no speed?

jcs11204 · #18 06-16-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's happened in nearly every single one of his races, so why couldn't it happen again? Are you saying he just keeps running into fields with no speed?

this crop is so bad, well besides casino who is in japan.... but anyway this crop is so bad that mint lane might be the best 3 yr old we have right now......
actually there is a MINESHAFT RUnning tomorrow at deleware, he broke his maiden last time out with a 86 beyer... he might be a top 5, 3yr old right now... its either the second or third race, small group

ateamstupid · #19 06-16-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

this crop is so bad, well besides casino who is in japan.... but anyway this crop is so bad that mint lane might be the best 3 yr old we have right now......
actually there is a MINESHAFT RUnning tomorrow at deleware, he broke his maiden last time out with a 86 beyer... he might be a top 5, 3yr old right now... its either the second or third race, small group

Didn't you just say who cares about Mint Lane? Now he might be the best three-year-old we have?