Travers Winner Runs Friday

ateamstupid · #1 06-13-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's hard to disagree. It's in the mid 100s ( 102 to 106 ).

Jimmy Jerkens's horses are certainly running very well.

What would that give Unbridled's Heart then? Low 90's? Maybe he just got smacked by a horse that's better than people thought and will prove to be very good as well.

blackthroatedwind · #2 06-13-2008, 04:45 PM

I'm confused by Mint Lane. I guess it's about 1.8 points a length so Unbridled's Heart ran 11 or 12 points slower.

It will be interesting to see how Mint Lane runs if he ever actually gets challenged for the early lead but he has to be better than I thought he was.

pick4 · #3 06-13-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What would that give Unbridled's Heart then? Low 90's? Maybe he just got smacked by a horse that's better than people thought and will prove to be very good as well.

The fig doesn't matter that much. It was only his second career race and he lost a race where he did not get a good trip and the winner who is a good horse had a dream trip. Mint Lane created his own trip but he's much more experienced than Unbridled's Heart. I think Unbridled's Heart will improve off this race. The Dwyer looks like a good race to make is his start unless they decide to run in a non winners of 1. If he improves and runs a good race, he can run in the Jim Dandy and the Travers.

jcs11204 · #4 06-13-2008, 06:37 PM

[quote=pick4]The fig doesn't matter that much. It was only his second career race and he lost a race where he did not get a good trip and the winner who is a good horse had a dream trip. Mint Lane created his own trip but he's much more experienced than Unbridled's Heart. I think Unbridled's Heart will improve off this race. The Dwyer looks like a good race to make is his start unless they decide to run in a non winners of 1. If he improves and runs a good race, he can run in the Jim Dandy and the Travers.[/QUOTE

that would be ambitious, especially off of todays effort

pick4 · #5 06-13-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4

The fig doesn't matter that much. It was only his second career race and he lost a race where he did not get a good trip and the winner who is a good horse had a dream trip. Mint Lane created his own trip but he's much more experienced than Unbridled's Heart. I think Unbridled's Heart will improve off this race. The Dwyer looks like a good race to make is his start unless they decide to run in a non winners of 1. If he improves and runs a good race, he can run in the Jim Dandy and the Travers.[/QUOTE

that would be ambitious, especially off of todays effort

UH is a lightly raced horse. The possibility of upside exists. But we'll find out soon if he is for real or not.

jcs11204 · #6 06-13-2008, 07:50 PM

[quote=pick4]

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UH is a lightly raced horse. The possibility of upside exists. But we'll find out soon if he is for real or not.

i get accused a lot on this website of falling in love with every horse that runs good.... i never touted UH once, i dont like him, never did like him, and dont think he will turn out to be anything close to a travers winner. decent horse maybe, but hes no ROMAN EMPEROR

#7 06-13-2008, 07:57 PM

So much for taking a day off, eh Action Jackson?

jcs11204 · #8 06-13-2008, 08:02 PM

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So much for taking a day off, eh Action Jackson?

please dont speak to me, are friendship is over

pick4 · #9 06-13-2008, 07:59 PM

[quote=jcs11204]

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i get accused a lot on this website of falling in love with every horse that runs good.... i never touted UH once, i dont like him, never did like him, and dont think he will turn out to be anything close to a travers winner. decent horse maybe, but hes no ROMAN EMPEROR

I wouldn't worry about other peoples opinions if I was you. The great thing about a messageboard such as this is you can exchange opinions with people who have pretty good knowledge of horse racing. Difference of opinions brings out the best. Sometimes people get offended by the written word and an argument ensues. I have strong opinions but I try to keep an open mind to other points of view. A lot of times I'm wrong and I learn a few things and sometimes I'm right and learn new ideas.

jcs11204 · #10 06-13-2008, 08:01 PM

[quote=pick4]

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I wouldn't worry about other peoples opinions if I was you. The great thing about a messageboard such as this is you can exchange opinions with people who have pretty good knowledge of horse racing. Difference of opinions brings out the best. Sometimes people get offended by the written word and an argument ensues. I have strong opinions but I try to keep an open mind to other points of view. A lot of times I'm wrong and I learn a few things and sometimes I'm right and learn new ideas.

the roman emperor thing was a joke... well kind of a joke, i do like him

Danzig · #11 06-13-2008, 08:30 PM

[quote=jcs11204]

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Originally Posted by pick4

i get accused a lot on this website of falling in love with every horse that runs good.... i never touted UH once, i dont like him, never did like him, and dont think he will turn out to be anything close to a travers winner. decent horse maybe, but hes no ROMAN EMPEROR

this type of thinking may explain your lack of success at the windows. bet the best choice, not the one you like-and don't ignore those you don't like.

i always found that thought process kind of flawed anyway. how can you 'not like' a horse? you can think a horse is a bad bet, but it's nothing personal.

but then, you did say you look at cards searching for giant's causeways-so i think you've got a way to go before you should start throwing serious money at the tellers.

jcs11204 · #12 06-13-2008, 08:31 PM

[quote=Danzig]

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this type of thinking may explain your lack of success at the windows. bet the best choice, not the one you like-and don't ignore those you don't like.

i always found that thought process kind of flawed anyway. how can you 'not like' a horse? you can think a horse is a bad bet, but it's nothing personal.

but then, you did say you look at cards searching for giant's causeways-so i think you've got a way to go before you should start throwing serious money at the tellers.

when i say dont like, i dont mean a dislike, not in the way your making it out to be, i dont dislike any horse... i guess i mean not nearly as much as everyone else on here, especially the ppl who were making him a top 3, 3yr old off of a maiden win