Best broodmare (revisited)

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

The Bid was another example of a good broodmare sire.

Yes, but my point was simply that he is not in the same league as Sec in terms of being a broodmare sire even though he also saw the top mares. Sec also sired a HOY in Lady's Secret and a multiple classic winner in Risen Star, while The Bid never approached that.
My point wasn't really that the Bid was a complete failure or anything like that, but simply that Secretariat's remarkable success wasn't just due to the quality of the mares he was seeing.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Yes, but my point was simply that he is not in the same league as Sec in terms of being a broodmare sire even though he also saw the top mares. Sec also sired a HOY in Lady's Secret and a multiple classic winner in Risen Star, while The Bid never approached that.
My point wasn't really that the Bid was a complete failure or anything like that, but simply that Secretariat's remarkable success wasn't just due to the quality of the mares he was seeing.

I'm not arguing with that. I agree completely.