Kent's Ride: Stride-by-stride

[The Bid]

Really, you think they could stand him right now for more than 30k? If hes not a top tier stallion its going to be hard to be in that 50-75 range first year. I just cant imagine a group lining up to go to a Boundry for that kind of money. Maybe Im wrong

Hopefully it shakes out where we get to enjoy him running and he gets a shot at redemption. He has a lot of catching up to do to be mentioned in the same company we heard whispers of prior to the Belmont

[ELA]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Really, you think they could stand him right now for more than 30k? If hes not a top tier stallion its going to be hard to be in that 50-75 range first year. I just cant imagine a group lining up to go to a Boundry for that kind of money. Maybe Im wrong

Hopefully it shakes out where we get to enjoy him running and he gets a shot at redemption. He has a lot of catching up to do to be mentioned in the same company we heard whispers of prior to the Belmont

I didn't mean to say I think they could . . . I said I think they would . . . LOL.

Seriously speaking, no I think you are right -- which is why the indications of interest weren't strong. To pay that kind of money for a share, and to warrant the kind of stud fee the deal dictated -- people were going to wait. Those kind of #'s demand that the horse, as an individual, his accomplihments, etc. -- they had to transcend his pedigree, his sire, his feet, his problems, his lack of 2yo record/performance, and in some people's minds, his trainer.

Like I said, I hope we soon see.

Eric

[dylbert]

History shows that Big Brown finished last in 2008 Belmont Stakes and failed to win Triple Crown. No words posted here will ever change that fact.

Move on folks! Get ready for 2009 Derby Trail!!!

Gary Stevens could be back in the saddle soon.

He's like a broad in Bloomingdales...make up your mind, woman.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/story/406103.html

[Danzig]

i don't think kd lost the race, the horse just wasn't there.
by the same token, i think kent would rather have gotten an ass beating then go to the front too soon, lose, and have to listen to ten years of that added onto ten years of moving real quiet too soon.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think kd lost the race, the horse just wasn't there.
by the same token, i think kent would rather have gotten an ass beating then go to the front too soon, lose, and have to listen to ten years of that added onto ten years of moving real quiet too soon.

I love conspiracy theories, and that starter standing on the track in the same lane and spot Secretariat took in 1973 sure looks ominous.

And the white pants?

Sheesh.......was he wearing a white belt, too?

Immediately pre-race I think the national media was reporting $5.9 million had been bet at Belmont alone on Big Brown to win.

I was a bit suspect at the $48,000 superfecta payout when the solid chalk ran off the board, and the three longest shots on the board were in the Top 4.

I really thought the payout would have exceeded 48K and change, DH for 4th or not.

Not to mention the $3,700 trifecta with the two longest shots on the board in 1st and 3rd.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

I love conspiracy theories, and that starter standing on the track in the same lane and spot Secretariat took in 1973 sure looks ominous.

And the white pants?

Sheesh.......was he wearing a white belt, too?

Immediately pre-race I think the national media was reporting $5.9 million had been bet at Belmont alone on Big Brown to win.

I was a bit suspect at the $48,000 superfecta payout when the solid chalk ran off the board, and the three longest shots on the board were in the Top 4.

I really thought the payout would have exceeded 48K and change, DH for 4th or not.

Not to mention the $3,700 trifecta with the two longest shots on the board in 1st and 3rd.

The trifecta really paid more like $7,500 because there was a dead-heat for 3rd. There were two separate winning trifectas. One paid $3,700 and the other one paid $3,950.

But if the exotics were still light, it doesn't shock me. I'm sure there was some significant smart money betting that he might run out after seeing the looks of that quarter crack.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The trifecta really paid more like $7,500 because there was a dead-heat for 3rd. There were two separate winning trifectas. One paid $3,700 and the other one paid $3,950.

But if the exotics were still light, it doesn't shock me. I'm sure there was some significant smart money betting that he might run out after seeing the looks of that quarter crack.

And the superfecta really paid $95K.

It's amazing to me the lengths people will go to try to imagine things that aren't there.

From a betting standpoint, Big Brown was very much an all or nothing horse, and his distribution in the runner up spots in exotic wagers was surely different than your usual heavy favorite. Plus, those pools reflect more realistic odds, as they don't contain the infrequent bettors just playing the TC hopeful to win. The bottom line is the tri and super payoffs were in line.

As for the ride on Big Brown......way too much of nothing. Believe it or not, jockeys have very little to do with outcomes overall and certainly nothing to do with horses that run last.