6/14 (CD): Stephen Foster Day

#1 06-11-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

There really isn't any until next month.

There was the Manhattan. Incompetence spreads like a deadly virus. If they're so desperate for a race maybe they should wait for the Gold Cup in two weeks. There's no need to put this horse against Curlin. It's a waste of time.

#2 06-11-2008, 05:44 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that Pitts made the decision on this one with revenge on her mind? I can understand why she'd have sour grapes...but what good can come from running Einstein on a track that will be equal to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway's surface? It's not like this horse has any shot against Curlin unless something goes horribly wrong.

I just can't think of any other viable reason that doesn't border on insanity.

ateamstupid · #3 06-11-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

There was the Manhattan. Incompetence spreads like a deadly virus. If they're so desperate for a race maybe they should wait for the Gold Cup in two weeks. There's no need to put this horse against Curlin. It's a waste of time.

Except if they run him in the Gold Cup, he can't run in the Firecracker or in a Million prep. Not to mention the cross-country ship and Cushion Track issues.

I don't understand what the big problem is. There's no one in the race other than Curlin, the horse needs a race and it's not like he's been abysmal on dirt.

#4 06-11-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Except if they run him in the Gold Cup, he can't run in the Firecracker or in a Million prep. Not to mention the cross-country ship and Cushion Track issues.

I don't understand what the big problem is. There's no one in the race other than Curlin, the horse needs a race and it's not like he's been abysmal on dirt.

Oh yes the illustrious Firecracker. Big purse on that one.

If the purse isn't an issue I don't see why Churchill can't card a bunny race like Gulfstream did for War Pass this winter.

Cushion track issues? If he has issues on Cushion Track then they will be tenfold on the speedway. It's dry as a bone down here right now.

Also remember this horse has been shelved the past two years over injuries. This just seems like a bad risk to me. I hope he comes out of the race ok, but I think he'll be shelved again.

ateamstupid · #5 06-11-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Oh yes the illustrious Firecracker. Big purse on that one.

If the purse isn't an issue I don't see why Churchill can't card a bunny race like Gulfstream did for War Pass this winter.

Cushion track issues? If he has issues on Cushion Track then they will be tenfold on the speedway. It's dry as a bone down here right now.

Also remember this horse has been shelved the past two years over injuries. This just seems like a bad risk to me. I hope he comes out of the race ok, but I think he'll be shelved again.

The hard track concern is a good point, but it doesn't make any more sense to ship him across the country, IMO. And the Firecracker would essentially be a prep for the Million and he'd be a lock to win it, so wouldn't it at least be nice to have the option of running in it?

Would it be safer to save him for a turf race in July? Probably. But I don't see the huge travesty in trying Curlin off the plane from Dubai in a $1 million race with no one else of note (except maybe Grasshoper) entered.

If the dirt is as bad as you say it is, I'd be concerned about everyone's safety, not just Einstein's.

ateamstupid · #6 06-14-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

There was the Manhattan. Incompetence spreads like a deadly virus. If they're so desperate for a race maybe they should wait for the Gold Cup in two weeks. There's no need to put this horse against Curlin. It's a waste of time.

Collected a $200,000 check. Sure doesn't seem like a waste of time to me.

#7 06-14-2008, 05:04 PM

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Collected a $200,000 check. Sure doesn't seem like a waste of time to me.

Oh you got me there.

ateamstupid · #8 06-14-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Oh you got me there.

Do you still feel the same way? He's now G1-placed on dirt and got $200,000 for the run. Was it still a waste of time?

Kasept · #9 06-14-2008, 05:07 PM

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

ateamstupid · #10 06-14-2008, 05:09 PM

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Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

So what's the deal with his situation in NY? Can he not run in the Whitney or Woodward?

Dunbar · #11 06-15-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

Right. Getting to watch a previous year's 3-yr-old standout is an all-too-rare treat.

The Foster was posted on YouTube by 4 different people. Here's one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=foLoLOKfNaA

--Dunbar

#12 06-14-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you still feel the same way? He's now G1-placed on dirt and got $200,000 for the run. Was it still a waste of time?

I really don't care. What do you want me to say? Is the brinks truck on the way to your house right now because of this race?

ateamstupid · #13 06-14-2008, 05:12 PM

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I really don't care. What do you want me to say? Is the brinks truck on the way to your house right now because of this race?

You made a huge deal about how moronic it was to run the horse, then after he runs second, you say you really don't care. You weren't the only one, but I'm pretty sure had he run like ****, you'd be beating your chest.

#14 06-14-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You made a huge deal about how moronic it was to run the horse, then after he runs second, you say you really don't care. You weren't the only one, but I'm pretty sure had he run like ****, you'd be beating your chest.

I thought the whole purpose of any competitive sport was to actually win...I guess I was wrong. Yay. He picked up a check.

#15 06-15-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

His second in a grade 1 on the dirt meant more to his future than winning a grade 3 on the turf ever will. It's okay to admit when you are wrong every once in awhile.

All of you ninnies can die in a fire. Until the season is over I stand by what I say.

Storm Cadet · #16 06-15-2008, 10:43 AM

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All of you ninnies can die in a fire. Until the season is over I stand by what I say.

Relax

Slewbopper · #17 06-14-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Collected a $200,000 check. Sure doesn't seem like a waste of time to me.

More dough for the fen phen plaintiffs

#18 06-11-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He probably can't beat him. But isn't this the time to try and beat Curlin, coming back from Dubai? I don't think it's a stretch to think he can run second in here. It's not like he's some bum. He would have been the favorite in the Manhattan last weekend. I'd just rather see him running, than sitting in the barn waiting for a turf race in a few weeks.

I wouldn't bother complaining if he were a bum. I actually like the horse and don't want to see him out for the rest of the year...which seems to be his pattern. And I don't feel this race helps his chances of making it to the Breeders cup.

Danzig · #19 06-11-2008, 06:01 PM

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I wouldn't bother complaining if he were a bum. I actually like the horse and don't want to see him out for the rest of the year...which seems to be his pattern. And I don't feel this race helps his chances of making it to the Breeders cup.

now, in that regard, yes-i can see why it might be a question mark as to why they're running.