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Old 06-11-2008, 12:48 PM
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All I know is if you are riding "the best horse you've ever ridden" and if you are so confident that all your horse has to do " is get in the starting gate" and you put the kind of ride on the steed like Desormeaux did, you are, at least in part, responsible.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:49 PM
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All I know is if you are riding "the best horse you've ever ridden" and if you are so confident that all your horse has to do " is get in the starting gate" and you put the kind of ride on the steed like Desormeaux did, you are, at least in part, responsible.
I look at it this way -- he didn't cause the loss by any stretch of the imagination. At the same time, he didn't do the horse any favors. But given the chain of events, I'm not sure very many jockeys would have.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:52 PM
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I look at it this way -- he didn't cause the loss by any stretch of the imagination. At the same time, he didn't do the horse any favors. But given the chain of events, I'm not sure very many jockeys would have.
Travis,
My only point is that Kent didn't know the horse was going to be empty. And he certainly didn't ride as if he had the far best horse. But I doubt he had a contingency for breaking bad and out.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:05 PM
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I look at it this way -- he didn't cause the loss by any stretch of the imagination. At the same time, he didn't do the horse any favors. But given the chain of events, I'm not sure very many jockeys would have.
exactly right on. well put.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:09 PM
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This is strictly an opinion kind of question. Do you personally think that Dutrow, Desormeaux or anyone form IEAH was that confident? How could they be, with the foot issue?
I'd say Dutrow and IEAH thought:

1/3 chance they believed he was unbeatable no matter what.
1/3 chance they thought the foot was no problem, leaving all the other kinds of reasons that led to the last 10 Derby-Preakness winners losing the race.
1/3 chance they thought they were in big trouble for reasons known and unknown to others.

Thing is, I doubt they'd have shared anything negative with the jockey. I just thought Desormeaux didn't ride like he thought he was on the far best horse.
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Old 06-11-2008, 01:10 PM
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There are some 'big names in the industry' posting here? Not as big as some of the experts that do the pre-race commentary, right?
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