Horse Racing Books ?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

lol i think i do.
its not helping, any other suggestions ?

There's no way you read that book and it's not helping.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

There's no way you read that book and it's not helping.

well im not hitting more, i find myself catching 2/3 3/4 a lot more often

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

well im not hitting more, i find myself catching 2/3 3/4 a lot more often

That's probably a result of bad or unlucky handicapping. Books like 'Exotic Betting' will give you the strategy, but they're not going to pick the horses for you.

It might help if you actually told us what you wanted to learn.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That's probably a result of bad or unlucky handicapping. Books like 'Exotic Betting' will give you the strategy, but they're not going to pick the horses for you.

It might help if you actually told us what you wanted to learn.

i dont really even know. i mainly play pick 3 and 4... once in a while i will throw in a exacta or win/place bet... but when i got to otb, or the track the gameplan is pick 3 and 4...
i dont know what i want to learn to be honest, i find my tickets normally looking like this....4-3-2
or 3-3-3-1, i always seem to catch early, be live to a nice payout and i can never close, cause im never deep in the back end ?

[mes5107]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

cause im never deep in the back end

That's not what I heard....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

try re reading crist book..look up some beyer stuff some davidowitz....

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

try re reading crist book..look up some beyer stuff some davidowitz....

i am going to re read it, starting that tonight when i get out of work

[ateamstupid]

It could be that you're forcing yourself to go skinny towards the end of tickets. When putting together a pick four, sometimes it's tempting (especially for procrastinators) to go wide in the first few legs, while thinking "I'll just single later." A lot of times, that means you have to single a horse that shouldn't really be a single simply because you want to make the ticket affordable.

This is probably because you're glossing over the first few legs. Go back and see if you can narrow down in the early legs. Then reanalyze your single or skinny leg and see if you're forcing yourself to single a horse you don't love. If you do these things and come to the conclusion that there's no way you'll feel comfortable going one- or two-wide in any leg, PASS ON THE SEQUENCE. There will be plenty of other pick threes and fours to play, and choosing the right sequence will save and make you money.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It could be that you're forcing yourself to go skinny towards the end of tickets. When putting together a pick four, sometimes it's tempting (especially for procrastinators) to go wide in the first few legs, while thinking "I'll just single later." A lot of times, that means you have to single a horse that shouldn't really be a single simply because you want to make the ticket affordable.

This is probably because you're glossing over the first few legs. Go back and see if you can narrow down in the early legs. Then reanalyze your single or skinny leg and see if you're forcing yourself to single a horse you don't love. If you do these things and come to the conclusion that there's no way you'll feel comfortable going one- or two-wide in any leg, PASS ON THE SEQUENCE. There will be plenty of other pick threes and fours to play, and choosing the right sequence will save and make you money.

i do force myself all the time, i never want to get knocked out early.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i do force myself all the time, i never want to get knocked out early.

If that's the case, then you're looking for action, not trying to make money.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i dont really even know. i mainly play pick 3 and 4... once in a while i will throw in a exacta or win/place bet... but when i got to otb, or the track the gameplan is pick 3 and 4...
i dont know what i want to learn to be honest, i find my tickets normally looking like this....4-3-2
or 3-3-3-1, i always seem to catch early, be live to a nice payout and i can never close, cause im never deep in the back end ?

So you are bashing Exotic Bashing cause it doesn't work while not even trying the A-B-C-X method on your Pick 4s?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

So you are bashing Exotic Bashing cause it doesn't work while not even trying the A-B-C-X method on your Pick 4s?

wowow.. im not bashing anything

...but bashing Exotic Bashing is what the cool kids are doing.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

wowow.. im not bashing anything

You still haven't addressed my suggestion that you're betting mainly for action.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

well im not hitting more, i find myself catching 2/3 3/4 a lot more often

There is no book about betting strategy that, at this time, is going to help you at all. As you are currently, you can't be helped by anyone other than yourself. Once the entries for a race are even mentioned you have narrowed the race down to one or two horses. You are so phucked up with preconceptions that even if you are a capable handicapper you won't be able to see through the murk to make rational decisions.

You actually seem like a well meaning person, and I'm honestly being nice here, but until you even give yourself a chance to win you will continue to lose day after day. This is not to say that you will ever be able to win, but that's OK because you love the game and will get great enjoyment from playing, but you will learn to love playing even more when you clear your head and look at all the horses racing.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

There is no book about betting strategy that, at this time, is going to help you at all. As you are currently, you can't be helped by anyone other than yourself. Once the entries for a race are even mentioned you have narrowed the race down to one or two horses. You are so phucked up with preconceptions that even if you are a capable handicapper you won't be able to see through the murk to make rational decisions.

You actually seem like a well meaning person, and I'm honestly being nice here, but until you even give yourself a chance to win you will continue to lose day after day. This is not to say that you will ever be able to win, but that's OK because you love the game and will get great enjoyment from playing, but you will learn to love playing even more when you clear your head and look at all the horses racing.

your right, i see horses who ran huge, or maybe that i have cashed on, or anything by giants causeway, and i use them... teach me to break this horrible habit, please
i think im addicted to giants causeway's i scan pp's everynight of tracks looking for anything by him, is that a problem ?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

your right, i see horses who ran huge, or maybe that i have cashed on, or anything by giants causeway, and i use them... teach me to break this horrible habit, please
i think im addicted to giants causeway's i scan pp's everynight of tracks looking for anything by him, is that a problem ?

wow

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

wow

what ?
it is true, i normally look at cali main track ny main... kentucky and florida

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

what ?
it is true, i normally look at cali main track ny main... kentucky and florida

i believe you - it's just strange. . .

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

well im not hitting more, i find myself catching 2/3 3/4 a lot more often

Then you likely are having a problem identifying your "A"s from your "B"s and "X"s otherwise your tickets are too narrow in cost, number of selections per race, no other reasons not to cash I am afraid....


oops a little late on this one he's the knowledgable one on this subject here. Sorry Andy.