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Old 06-09-2008, 01:42 PM
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Very interesting, if not illuminating, discussion between Kent and Dan Patrick.

Clears it all up.

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What's Patrick's hard on for how much Desormeaux gets/got paid?
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Old 06-09-2008, 01:50 PM
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I have a hard time believing the early trip did him in. He was all done by the 5 F pole. Real good horses can overcome having their preferred trip taken away and he didn't do it. Not at all. I can see the start costing him the race if he'd fought at least a little harder a little longer. But I just can't buy the trip took so much out of him that he was done when he was. Same goes for the track condition.

My guess is the foot -- or something else -- was bothering him and he wrapped himself up. But they don't talk so who knows. But as much as he dominated his prior three fields, he really had no non-physical excuse to run so bad.
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Old 06-09-2008, 01:52 PM
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What's Patrick's hard on for how much Desormeaux gets/got paid?
DP needs a job and is considering all his options
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:01 PM
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What's Patrick's hard on for how much Desormeaux gets/got paid?
Seriously. He's a weird guy..
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:15 PM
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"What I don't like is the fact that Real Quiet, Funny Cide and now Big Brown all ran on the exact same dates and they all failed. May 4, May 17 and June 7. It's kind of, I don't like it. I didn't know that beforehand, I know it now."

I don't get the point of this statement.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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No one has really brought up the point/question, but BB was a horse with what 6 career starts and racing for the third time in 5 weeks. Add that to the tempertaure and a little adversity (rail, catching a little dirt) which he has never had. The loss in training time due to the foot. Plus racing against fresher (not neccesarly better) horses. Maybe it was just a recipe for disaster. I just don't think Kent did anything wrong.
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:29 PM
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Now it starts .... DRF front page Posted 6/9/2008, 5:26 pm
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:34 PM
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Now it starts .... DRF front page Posted 6/9/2008, 5:26 pm
He just couldn't keep his mouth shut, such a shady bastard. Put his ass on a jacked up horse
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:39 PM
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He just couldn't keep his mouth shut, such a shady bastard. Put his ass on a jacked up horse
Just read it and was thinking what Scav just posted. It can't be that the horse was tired, it was hot, etc...Has to be a reason to point the finger of blame.

Wonder who'll be on BB in The Travers now

Not that it matters if he's a "push button horse"
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Old 06-09-2008, 06:03 PM
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No one has really brought up the point/question, but BB was a horse with what 6 career starts and racing for the third time in 5 weeks. Add that to the tempertaure and a little adversity (rail, catching a little dirt) which he has never had. The loss in training time due to the foot. Plus racing against fresher (not neccesarly better) horses. Maybe it was just a recipe for disaster. I just don't think Kent did anything wrong.
i had the exact same thinking before the race leading me to believe that a bad effort was not inconcievable. you had:
-3rd start in five weeks for a horse that they said needs time between races.
-the quartercrack and loss of training time.
-questionable to be at his best for the distance -at least in my mind.
-a declining pattern since the Florida derby.
-possible problem with the heat
-no recent winstrol

there were some trouble signs.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:21 PM
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I probably missed it elsewhere, but assuming he does run again (big if) Kent seems to think they will run twice, Travers then Breeders Cup. I sure was hoping to see him try olders on dirt, but that ain't happening.
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:50 PM
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the horse just bounced.... not like it's been done before... nor will be done after.

due to that, there's nothing that Kent could have done to prevented it.... nor anyone else.

He'll bouce back the next out, just like any other horse would... let alone a proven champion like Big Brown.

It wasn't the horses's fault, nor the jock's.... it's just something that happens in racing. And a proven champion like Big Brown and Kent will come back as the champions that they are.
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:37 AM
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"What I don't like is the fact that Real Quiet, Funny Cide and now Big Brown all ran on the exact same dates and they all failed. May 4, May 17 and June 7. It's kind of, I don't like it. I didn't know that beforehand, I know it now."

I don't get the point of this statement.
I don't get the math of this statement. Since when do they run the Derby and Preakness 13 days apart? Is this a typo or is Kent just an idiot? It's only been a month and he can't remember the day he won a Kentucky Derby? Maybe he didn't remember the Belmont was a 1 1/2 mile race.
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