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Old 06-09-2008, 02:13 PM
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BS Joey. You probably looked at the card for two seconds and made some flip comment. Too bad if you don't like being called out for it. However, you make a lot of brash statements around here and barely ever get called out them ( and never by anybody but me ).

I've only looked at the card for a few minutes myself, and so far it looks pretty interesting. The point of my question to you, if you took time away from your usual victim stance, was that if you actually spent time looking at racing around the country you would know that this card is well above average.
OF COURSE COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IT'S A GOOD CARD. I was comparing to other Wednesdays at Belmont, which often have some very good races on them. This card, I think, has none. For example, I was at BEL on May 14, and I felt that THAT was an awesome card.

And I've looked at the card for about two hours now.. Still mediocre, COMPARED TO WHAT'S THERE USUALLY.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:19 PM
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About the card, I have looked at it for now 3 hours, and I haven't had the benefit of replays yet but I have to say that I don't see a single 'confident' single.

Considerations would be Myakka(I think this race has a bunch of bad bad horses in there and the first to the lead might win, and even if there is a some BS speed from someone, his outside post will allow him to sit chilly for a little while), or Dancing Tin Man (a little interesting if the pace develops, has some number power)

I do kinda like Pluralcity first time turf but I worry about him getting hooked up with the speed. Pennington is interesting in that race also.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:21 PM
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About the card, I have looked at it for now 3 hours, and I haven't had the benefit of replays yet but I have to say that I don't see a single 'confident' single.

Considerations would be Myakka(I think this race has a bunch of bad bad horses in there and the first to the lead might win, and even if there is a some BS speed from someone, his outside post will allow him to sit chilly for a little while), or Dancing Tin Man (a little interesting if the pace develops, has some number power)

I do kinda like Pluralcity first time turf but I worry about him getting hooked up with the speed. Pennington is interesting in that race also.
Dancing Tin Man and Hot Table would be where I'd turn to, though the latter has burned some money and will probably on the wrong side of a slow pace again.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:35 PM
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About the card, I have looked at it for now 3 hours, and I haven't had the benefit of replays yet but I have to say that I don't see a single 'confident' single.

Considerations would be Myakka(I think this race has a bunch of bad bad horses in there and the first to the lead might win, and even if there is a some BS speed from someone, his outside post will allow him to sit chilly for a little while), or Dancing Tin Man (a little interesting if the pace develops, has some number power)

I do kinda like Pluralcity first time turf but I worry about him getting hooked up with the speed. Pennington is interesting in that race also.

already looked at it for 3 hours by this time of the day??? I need your job, this golf pro sh*t aint cutting it anymore.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:36 PM
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already looked at it for 3 hours by this time of the day??? I need your job, this golf pro sh*t aint cutting it anymore.
You don't want my job, while I do nothing, it is still like a prison, although I don't know what that really feels like, and don't care to find out either
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:37 PM
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You don't want my job, while I do nothing, it is still like a prison, although I don't know what that really feels like, and don't care to find out either

I do need a job that doesn't cut drf.com from me though
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:38 PM
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I do need a job that doesn't cut drf.com from me though
I can tell you that the 2nd that they try and block DT from me, ADIOS
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:43 PM
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I can tell you that the 2nd that they try and block DT from me, ADIOS

Good thing I have more sense than you....
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:16 AM
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About the card, I have looked at it for now 3 hours, and I haven't had the benefit of replays yet but I have to say that I don't see a single 'confident' single.

Considerations would be Myakka(I think this race has a bunch of bad bad horses in there and the first to the lead might win, and even if there is a some BS speed from someone, his outside post will allow him to sit chilly for a little while), or Dancing Tin Man (a little interesting if the pace develops, has some number power)

I do kinda like Pluralcity first time turf but I worry about him getting hooked up with the speed. Pennington is interesting in that race also.
Not single-able in my opinion. . .
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:21 AM
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I found two singles for me that will allow me to spread in the other 4 races. It's just the way I will play it, and my reasoning won't be for everyone. If I cash with my 2 singles, who I happen to really like, they will both be at a decent price and the payday could be on the large side.

Especially if I beat Dancing Tin Man in the 6th, who will be the favorite and is Litfin's Best Bet. DTM's late moves aren't as fast as they appear as he came home in 30 sec flat for his last 5/16's last time out and 29 and 3/5ths 2 back, after a crawl through the majority of the race. I LOVE Stormy Mirage here, and he'll be a fair price. One of the few to graduate at the Open MSW level, and even though he's facing winners for the first time, he absolutely flew home last time, getting his last 3f in 34 and 3/5ths. My second single will be a horse that most of you will not like, La Ransom. She may go off as high a price as ever today, but here is why I like. Last time she broke from the rail (10/18/7), sprinting on turf, she went right to the lead and never looked back. That was with KJD aboard and he's back on today. I don't see anyone who's going to go 22, 45 and 2/5ths even though there is other speed signed on. Lastly, the winner of her last is a lot better than she ran on the 22nd, trust me I know. And as everyone can see Lost Without You came back to win last time. So, I give this second off the layoff the big thumbs up.

Like I said, this isn't for everyone, but if I get through these two races clean, it'll give me quite a few chances in the other 4 races.

Good Luck to everyone.

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Old 06-10-2008, 10:47 AM
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I found two singles for me that will allow me to spread in the other 4 races. It's just the way I will play it, and my reasoning won't be for everyone. If I cash with my 2 singles, who I happen to really like, they will both be at a decent price and the payday could be on the large side.

Especially if I beat Dancing Tin Man in the 6th, who will be the favorite and is Litfin's Best Bet. DTM's late moves aren't as fast as they appear as he came home in 30 sec flat for his last 5/16's last time out and 29 and 3/5ths 2 back, after a crawl through the majority of the race. I LOVE Stormy Mirage here, and he'll be a fair price. One of the few to graduate at the Open MSW level, and even though he's facing winners for the first time, he absolutely flew home last time, getting his last 3f in 34 and 3/5ths. My second single will be a horse that most of you will not like, La Ransom. She may go off as high a price as ever today, but here is why I like. Last time she broke from the rail (10/18/7), sprinting on turf, she went right to the lead and never looked back. That was with KJD aboard and he's back on today. I don't see anyone who's going to go 22, 45 and 2/5ths even though there is other speed signed on. Lastly, the winner of her last is a lot better than she ran on the 22nd, trust me I know. And as everyone can see Lost Without You came back to win last time. So, I give this second off the layoff the big thumbs up.

Like I said, this isn't for everyone, but if I get through these two races clean, it'll give me quite a few chances in the other 4 races.

Good Luck to everyone.
good luck with the first one..i could never single that horse vs these..
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:06 PM
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I LOVE Stormy Mirage here, and he'll be a fair price.

What do you think is a fair price?

He won't be close to the 10:1 ML.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:56 PM
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What do you think is a fair price?

He won't be close to the 10:1 ML.
I think anything above 6-1 would be fair, but I really like him off the last race. He probably should be closer to the 10-1 morning line with the majority of the field being multiple winners, so I guess my use of the word fair isn't correct. DTM will be the chalk and others who will take as much, if not more, money as him would be Sumphin, Romp, Personal Good and I think even the Dutrow with Prado aboard. So he could creep even closer to 10-1 than that, don't you think?
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:48 PM
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I think anything above 6-1 would be fair, but I really like him off the last race. He probably should be closer to the 10-1 morning line with the majority of the field being multiple winners, so I guess my use of the word fair isn't correct. DTM will be the chalk and others who will take as much, if not more, money as him would be Sumphin, Romp, Personal Good and I think even the Dutrow with Prado aboard. So he could creep even closer to 10-1 than that, don't you think?

I think he should be, and will be, second choice at around 7:2. But, I honestly have to look at the race much more.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:28 PM
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My second single will be a horse that most of you will not like, La Ransom. She may go off as high a price as ever today, but here is why I like. Last time she broke from the rail (10/18/7), sprinting on turf, she went right to the lead and never looked back. That was with KJD aboard and he's back on today. I don't see anyone who's going to go 22, 45 and 2/5ths even though there is other speed signed on. Lastly, the winner of her last is a lot better than she ran on the 22nd, trust me I know. And as everyone can see Lost Without You came back to win last time. So, I give this second off the layoff the big thumbs up.

I think the connections, if they look at the race, will scratch La Ransom in order to run her entrymate.
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I think the connections, if they look at the race, will scratch La Ransom in order to run her entrymate.

Are there any other early scratches in the P6 races your aware of sir??
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:59 PM
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Are there any other early scratches in the P6 races your aware of sir??

The scratches come out tomorrow. I don't understand....how would I know of scratches?

I'm just guessing they will scratch La Ransom. If the connections look at the race, and have a pulse, they will scratch her. Whether or not they do is another question.
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I found two singles for me that will allow me to spread in the other 4 races. It's just the way I will play it, and my reasoning won't be for everyone. If I cash with my 2 singles, who I happen to really like, they will both be at a decent price and the payday could be on the large side.

Especially if I beat Dancing Tin Man in the 6th, who will be the favorite and is Litfin's Best Bet. DTM's late moves aren't as fast as they appear as he came home in 30 sec flat for his last 5/16's last time out and 29 and 3/5ths 2 back, after a crawl through the majority of the race. I LOVE Stormy Mirage here, and he'll be a fair price. One of the few to graduate at the Open MSW level, and even though he's facing winners for the first time, he absolutely flew home last time, getting his last 3f in 34 and 3/5ths. My second single will be a horse that most of you will not like, La Ransom. She may go off as high a price as ever today, but here is why I like. Last time she broke from the rail (10/18/7), sprinting on turf, she went right to the lead and never looked back. That was with KJD aboard and he's back on today. I don't see anyone who's going to go 22, 45 and 2/5ths even though there is other speed signed on. Lastly, the winner of her last is a lot better than she ran on the 22nd, trust me I know. And as everyone can see Lost Without You came back to win last time. So, I give this second off the layoff the big thumbs up.

Like I said, this isn't for everyone, but if I get through these two races clean, it'll give me quite a few chances in the other 4 races.

Good Luck to everyone.
A day like to today will make me stay away until next week. I can accept not being good enough to get it done with Stormy Mirage, but how I could read the FORM and come up with the idea that La Ransom would be on the lead and have the race run like that is poor. Though I'm not sure what Kent was doing since the filly had only passed like 3 horses in her whole life.

Have a good week everyone.
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:33 PM
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I am probably going to talk this 9 right in the winner circle, but how are they betting this horse. Sure that last race was fast, but it was a slop top, on a horse with a 400 tomilson rating...Think he is a bad play....
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:39 PM
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I am probably going to talk this 9 right in the winner circle, but how are they betting this horse. Sure that last race was fast, but it was a slop top, on a horse with a 400 tomilson rating...Think he is a bad play....
NY bettors love Jimmy the Jerk (for good reason), the horse is bred well, and he's got the best figure showing. I don't like him because I think this is a tough spot for 1st turf. I'm surprised the 7 is so high.
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