Patrick Biancone

parsixfarms · #1 06-08-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Tracks don't have to give anyone stalls. Therein lies their power. Keeping them from entering in races is a different story.

That doesn't mean they can't utilize private training centers.

I'm assuming there may be some legal distinction for allowing entries, but I've never understood what it is. If the trainer doesn't have, for want of a better word, the character to deserve stalls, why does he have the character to enter races? All you end up doing is simply inconveniencing him.

ELA · #2 06-08-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I'm assuming there may be some legal distinction for allowing entries, but I've never understood what it is. If the trainer doesn't have, for want of a better word, the character to deserve stalls, why does he have the character to enter races? All you end up doing is simply inconveniencing him.

Depending on the jurisdiction -- one is a track management issue, while the other is a state/racing commission/etc. issue.

Eric

Scurlogue Champ · #3 06-09-2008, 02:44 AM

He'll return and win both Keeneland meets running off the farm.

blackthroatedwind · #4 06-09-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

He'll return and win both Keeneland meets running off the farm.

You can get a square price on that.

freddymo · #5 06-09-2008, 06:59 AM

Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice

parsixfarms · #6 06-09-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice

Being a good horseman and being a cheater are not mutually exclusive concepts.

pgiaco · #7 06-09-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Cheating stinks no matter who does it. I always thought Biancone's horses were turned out well and wouldn't think twice about betting on his horses again. He is a very good trainer from all reports. You don't get horses from the folks he gets horses from because your hair cut is gorgeous and you have a a special beer belly. I guess the guy is a dam good horseman...save the snake juice

Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...

Monarchos1 · #8 06-09-2008, 08:41 AM

Isn't there an on-going investigation or scheduled hearing or something regarding possible violations of his suspension terms? I would assume that his return could be delayed if this was determined to be the case. I can't recall the specifics, but maybe someone can find a related article and post a link.

freddymo · #9 06-09-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pgiaco

Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...

I will not defend his cheating but i am certain the guy is a top notch trainer, perhaps with a few vices he needs to correct

Scurlogue Champ · #10 06-09-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pgiaco

Save for the part about being a cheat on 2 continents...

Come on now... Is that really fair?

It is three continents!