America's first Black President

GBBob · #1 06-05-2008, 07:52 AM

[quote=DaHoss9698]That seems to be one of the big differences IMO between the Dems and Republicans. I know more than a few Hillary supporters that will not vote for Obama. But a lot of Republicans I know vote blindly for every Republican candidate, no matter who they are, what they stand for. I'm not saying every single Republican is like that, but they do seem to be a more loyal group than the Dems.

I'm not sure I get that, especially those that supported Hilary and now say they will vote for McCain instead. Weren't Obama's and Clinton's platforms generally the same? They are identical in social issues, very close fiscally and I think the things they disagreed about in the campaign were more of a need to have talking points than a real difference in policy. I can understand if you are a conservative and not voting for Obama, but I'm curious why a liberal who supported Hilary won't support Obama?

hoovesupsideyourhead · #2 06-05-2008, 08:20 AM

carter said it would be the worst thing possible if hillary was vp...i tend to agree......

GBBob · #3 06-05-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

carter said it would be the worst thing possible if hillary was vp...i tend to agree......

I'm not sure Obama gets elected anyway, but I really don't think he does if Hilary is VP. She is just too polarizing and would motivate the far right who may not support/turn out to vote for McCain at this point

The Bid · #4 06-05-2008, 09:20 AM

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

GBBob · #5 06-05-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

Comparing Obama and Farrakkan in any similar context is laughable Bid..come on...I'm not saying you're racist, but all your comparison's are race driven, it seems. Do you think he has another "secret" agenda he's advancing besides his platforms?

SentToStud · #6 06-05-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

Obama is pretty much 1/2 at all int'l sports books to win it with Mccain at 3/2.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/...ican-candidate

SniperSB23 · #7 06-05-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Hilary was the only chance the Dems had to win.

Barack Hussein Obama has no chance. I saw a political drawing with Barack Hussein Obama as a totem pole. He was the top guy, Jeremiah Wright was the second tier, Louis Farrakhan was the base. Seems about right

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

GBBob · #8 06-05-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

thank you

#9 06-05-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

Well said.

The Bid · #10 06-05-2008, 05:45 PM

Win Virginia, PUHLEASE

GPK · #11 06-06-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

Scott, you can't be serious? No way he wins VA. The last dem to carry VA was Lyndon Johnson some 34 years ago. Obama has ZERO shot to win VA.

SniperSB23 · #12 06-06-2008, 01:13 PM

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Scott, you can't be serious? No way he wins VA. The last dem to carry VA was Lyndon Johnson some 34 years ago. Obama has ZERO shot to win VA.

The demographics in Virginia are changing and it is ripe for the picking in the fall. Check out the polls there:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008.../virginia.html

It is very much up for grabs. If he chooses Webb as his running mate I think he'll take it. Even without Webb he has a very good shot.

GBBob · #13 06-06-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Scott, you can't be serious? No way he wins VA. The last dem to carry VA was Lyndon Johnson some 34 years ago. Obama has ZERO shot to win VA.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5HUSryoW4Js

Cajungator26 · #14 06-22-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Obama will win. While he has no chance in Appalachia where people still invoke his middle name like it is an insult he is going to win Virginia and bring states like North Carolina and possibly even Georgia into play. If he can win 2 out of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina then it's all over. I have a really tough time seeing McCain taking four out of five of those states, especially after Hillary's supporters get over their bitterness and realize that Obama's a hell of a lot closer to Hillary on the issues than McCain is.

I just lost my dinner.