Expert opinions - Hatta Fort odds?

hockey2315 · #1 06-03-2008, 11:09 AM

The DRF PPs have him at 15-1 . . .

TENTH RACE Probable Post 5:44 EDT
1 Mile. Turf. 3-Year-Olds. HillPrnc (Grade 3). Purse: $100,000
PP HORSE PR. RIDER WT. COMMENTS ML.ODDS
7 Prussian Desormeaux K J 120 7-2
3 Moral Compass Coa E 116 4-1
8 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 120 9-2
1 Titan of Industry Castellano J 116 5-1
5 Writingonthewall Maragh R 116 6-1
6 Dynhocracy Velasquez C H 120 6-1
2 Hatta Fort Velazquez J R 120 15-1
4 Spark Candle Prado E S 116 15-1

Scav · #2 06-03-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

The DRF PPs have him at 15-1 . . .

TENTH RACE Probable Post 5:44 EDT
1 Mile. Turf. 3-Year-Olds. HillPrnc (Grade 3). Purse: $100,000
PP HORSE PR. RIDER WT. COMMENTS ML.ODDS
7 Prussian Desormeaux K J 120 7-2
3 Moral Compass Coa E 116 4-1
8 Gio Ponti Gomez G K 120 9-2
1 Titan of Industry Castellano J 116 5-1
5 Writingonthewall Maragh R 116 6-1
6 Dynhocracy Velasquez C H 120 6-1
2 Hatta Fort Velazquez J R 120 15-1
4 Spark Candle Prado E S 116 15-1

That can not be right......

hockey2315 · #3 06-03-2008, 11:14 AM

I know. . .

Scav · #4 06-03-2008, 11:15 AM

I really hope that Prussian is a 'go' in this race, although I find it hard to believe since he started on May 25th, and that will only be 12 days, very unlike Mott to make a move like this.....

my miss storm cat · #5 06-03-2008, 11:18 AM

Like this horse a lot (and not cause he's a Godolphin runner... liked him when he was still with Channon and kicked Declaration of War's butt at Newmarket last year).

Whatever his odds? Winner.

Scav · #6 06-03-2008, 11:22 AM

Ok, so I didn't believe you Hockey when you posted that and I just went and checked, I can't believe my eyes. WHOEVER made that ML on there should get fired if he/she is serious. This horse is ALREADY a Grade 2 winner, and almost had a ONE HUNDRED BEYER last time. What am I missing here??

blackthroatedwind · #7 06-03-2008, 11:24 AM

He'll be around 2-1 probably.

Scav · #8 06-03-2008, 11:24 AM

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He'll be around 2-1 probably.

Do you know who makes those ML's Andy? That is absolutely NUTS.

hockey2315 · #9 06-03-2008, 11:24 AM

Wait til the official one comes out. I don't trust this one either. . .

VOL JACK · #10 06-03-2008, 11:41 AM

You are probaly looking at the graded entries. The ml odds on those are completely bogus. Ive seen 50-1 on the graded be 4-1 when the official ml comes out.

my miss storm cat · #11 06-06-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Like this horse a lot (and not cause he's a Godolphin runner... liked him when he was still with Channon and kicked Declaration of War's butt at Newmarket last year).

Whatever his odds? Winner.

Another stellar pick.....

hockey2315 · #12 06-06-2008, 06:27 PM

Kind of a strange ride. . . moved way too soon but it looked like he may have been rank. . . wasn't beating the winner, though.

jcs11204 · #13 06-03-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

That can not be right......

i will you will easily get 5-1 on him....

Scav · #14 06-03-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wrong as usual. He'll be second choice at absolute worst and he is the reason I told you to look at the PP's again.

How is he 2nd choice, who goes below him?

Scav · #15 06-03-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I said second choice at absolute worst. I can see Prussian taking a lot of money. Maybe not enough to be favorite, but we'll see.

Honestly, I will be surprised to see him in this race, when do you see Mott come back off 12 days....almost never

NoLuvForPletch · #16 06-03-2008, 12:52 PM

It'll be interesting to see how CD's stablemate runs. Might give us some insight on what to expect from CD.

Interesting read in the POST yesterday.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06022008...ilt_113590.htm

NoLuvForPletch · #17 06-03-2008, 01:06 PM

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Didn't he already run here?

Yes, he ran in the Peter Pan.

I was thinking if he ran huge on the turf that these guys from Japan may be a little smarter than we are giving them credit for. The works for Casino Drive are a funny read right now. But if Spark Candle runs like those horses in Australia did I'm thinking it might not be all smoke and mirrors.

jcs11204 · #18 06-03-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Wrong as usual. He'll be second choice at absolute worst and he is the reason I told you to look at the PP's again.

i looked at his pp's ran huge at keenland, but ppl will bet prussian STRONG....ppl will bet tagg, and ppl will bet clement... he will be around 9-2 or 5-1

dalakhani · #19 06-03-2008, 01:55 PM

Was Gomez booted off of Hatta Fort or was the switch to gio ponte by choice? Anyone know?

the_fat_man · #20 06-03-2008, 02:02 PM

I'm thinking that Clement didn't get enough with GP getting blocked the length of the stretch in the BC, and Gomez blowing a ton of rides on the BEL TURF by INSISTING on riding the rail (including at least one for Clement, off the top of my head).

This is a nice jockey change.