Good Luck, Joe Torre

SCUDSBROTHER · #1 06-02-2008, 11:00 AM

Yes, the biggest surprise is not that Broxton is being Jeckyl n' Hyde (this is actually his usual, and we thought 2 years ago that he would eventually take the dress off.) Penny is the surprise. To be honest, there is no way he isn't gunna get hit hard. He is throwing it right smack down the center of the plate. You couldn't get more of the plate, and it's flat. I can't tell ya exactly what's changed ( because Charlie Steiner n' Lyons do the road games

,) but I would guess the velocity is down as well. He might have to be shut down. Will learn more this week, because Scully will be all over it (unlike the road game pair of

.) I don't think KEMP is ever going to hit good pitching. Unfortunately, with this team, it really is a case of guys that aren't talented enough to hit good pitching. As soon as they get bad pitching to hit, they come alive (Heilman the other night.) Ethier might be able to, and Martin may be able to hit .250 against good pitching. LONEY/ KEMP will never hit good pitching. They will always hit bad pitching (like white on rice.) We need Furcal back very badly. That's the main thing which changed. If you look at how they've done since he got hurt, then you'd see how important that player is to this team. A healthy, productive FURCAL can mean as much as 15 games a year for this team.

SCUDSBROTHER · #2 06-02-2008, 11:31 AM

Angels (34-24)....245 runs scored........240 runs allowed

Dodgers (27-29)....249 runs scored.....242 runs allowed

All I can say is that mismanagement has fkd up the Dodgers to the point they may never come back. It's beyond me, how they ever chose that cold fish (BILLY RUSSELL) over Scioscia. Billy probably has got his hands full trying to manage his dick pills well enough to get hard once a week.

Cannon Shell · #3 06-02-2008, 06:40 PM

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Angels (34-24)....245 runs scored........240 runs allowed

Dodgers (27-29)....249 runs scored.....242 runs allowed

All I can say is that mismanagement has fkd up the Dodgers to the point they may never come back. It's beyond me, how they ever chose that cold fish (BILLY RUSSELL) over Scioscia. Billy probably has got his hands full trying to manage his dick pills well enough to get hard once a week.

I think that shows how lucky the Angels have been as opposed to anything the Dodgers have done wrong. Kemp can hit. What is amazing is that he is striking out 25% of his at bats yet still hitting .315 with an OBP of .361. If he can just cut that a bit and put more balls in play he can easily be a .330 hitter because some of the balls in play will drop for hits. Martin is a tremendous hitter especially for a catcher. Furcal is a very good player but can never seem to stay healthy. If Ethier, Loney and De Witt keep hitting they will do ok because Kent almost has to get better but they just are missing the big power bat. They are ranked 7th in MLB in avg, 9th in OBP but just 24th in SLG, 22nd in RBI's, 28th in HR's and 29th in 2b's. Some of this is park related of course but the lack of extra base hits just kills them.

2Hot4TV · #4 06-02-2008, 07:39 PM

The Angels still have some pitchers in the bull pin and are young enough to run the bases.

The Dodgers just dont have the farm system to feed the club like the O"Malleys did.

The Dodgers future is just a .500 ball club and they will still draw 3 million.

Cannon Shell · #5 06-02-2008, 08:12 PM

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The Angels still have some pitchers in the bull pin and are young enough to run the bases.

The Dodgers just dont have the farm system to feed the club like the O"Malleys did.

The Dodgers future is just a .500 ball club and they will still draw 3 million.

Are you kidding? The Dodgers have the best farm system in baseball. What other team can match Kemp, Loney, De Witt, Billingsley, La Roche, Kershaw, Ethier, Broxton, Martin, Kuo, Hu, etc.

Coming into the season they had 3 five star prospects, a four star and 7 three star prospects. Management has made some screw ups in signing free agents but the farm system is producing. I dont think they have enough power and if Penny doesnt turn it around they dont have a number one starter which probably means they will fall short this year but they have a lot of talent .

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 06-02-2008, 11:21 PM

Kemp hit a home run and 2 doubles tonight. Kent homered. I think Ethier, too.Folks they need to face bad pitching, or else they just can't hit. That is the story. The talent only shows up against bad pitchers. It's not a coincidence that they just got their asses kicked by the Cards, Cubs, and Mets. Those are contenders, and they can't compete with contenders like that. They just can not hit against them. They aren't getting better at it, either. It's so obvious when they face a bad pitcher like tonight. It's like such a relief for them. So, yes, the farm club is producing a lot of well thought of players, but virtually none of them have the ability to hit quality major league pitching. They just can't do it. They have 8 runs tonight, and if a decent pitcher was against them, then it would only be 1 run. It's like the best Triple A minor league team ever put together.

Cannon Shell · #7 06-03-2008, 02:53 PM

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Kemp hit a home run and 2 doubles tonight. Kent homered. I think Ethier, too.Folks they need to face bad pitching, or else they just can't hit. That is the story. The talent only shows up against bad pitchers. It's not a coincidence that they just got their asses kicked by the Cards, Cubs, and Mets. Those are contenders, and they can't compete with contenders like that. They just can not hit against them. They aren't getting better at it, either. It's so obvious when they face a bad pitcher like tonight. It's like such a relief for them. So, yes, the farm club is producing a lot of well thought of players, but virtually none of them have the ability to hit quality major league pitching. They just can't do it. They have 8 runs tonight, and if a decent pitcher was against them, then it would only be 1 run. It's like the best Triple A minor league team ever put together.

you are insane but that doesnt mean i dont like you.

2Hot4TV · #8 06-04-2008, 09:05 PM

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Are you kidding? The Dodgers have the best farm system in baseball. What other team can match Kemp, Loney, De Witt, Billingsley, La Roche, Kershaw, Ethier, Broxton, Martin, Kuo, Hu, etc.

Coming into the season they had 3 five star prospects, a four star and 7 three star prospects. Management has made some screw ups in signing free agents but the farm system is producing. I dont think they have enough power and if Penny doesnt turn it around they dont have a number one starter which probably means they will fall short this year but they have a lot of talent .

Where are the pitchers???????? You can buy some, but you have to produce some from your farms to compete. You may see stars, but I see a .500 ball club, same as the year before.

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 06-04-2008, 09:48 PM

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Where are the pitchers???????? You can buy some, but you have to produce some from your farms to compete. You may see stars, but I see a .500 ball club, same as the year before.

Other than Broxton being a woman in every other appearance, the pitching has been good enough. They just do not hit well. Look at Kemp striking out 5 times since he had a good night on Monday.

**** got to stop.

Cannon Shell · #10 06-04-2008, 09:57 PM

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Where are the pitchers???????? You can buy some, but you have to produce some from your farms to compete. You may see stars, but I see a .500 ball club, same as the year before.

Billingsley (23), kershaw(20), Broxton(23), Kuo(26)...

No offense but I dont think you know what you are watching. All, except La Roche who has been injured, the guys I mentioned before have seen big league action this year and many are starters. All except Ethier and Kuo are 24 or under. You implied that their farm system was somehow inept or not producing which is absolutely incorrect. The pitchers that have fell through this year namely Penny and Lowe arent products of the farm system. They have some holes that need to be fixed but in 2 or 3 years when these guys are reaching their prime several may be all stars.