I would like to be the first to suggest....

horseofcourse · #1 05-31-2008, 09:10 PM

I agree with justindew...she's more than good enough to run against the boys. She was much better than the other Shireffs horse today.

jcs11204 · #2 05-31-2008, 09:14 PM

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I agree with justindew...she's more than good enough to run against the boys. She was much better than the other Shireffs horse today.

i agree with that, especially with this group of boys....if the classic was run today or in a week or a month.... and curlin is not there, and big brown is not there... which is very very possible, ZENYATTA IS THE FAVORITE !!!!!

philcski · #3 05-31-2008, 11:16 PM

If Big Brown and Curlin aren't in the Classic, Heatseeker is the favorite... end of story.

Zenyatta is a SUPER nice filly, obviously the best out there right now. Almost Azeri-esque. Overcame a LOT today and still won for fun. But I'm not sure she's ready for the Classic... yet.

justindew · #4 06-01-2008, 07:43 AM

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If Big Brown and Curlin aren't in the Classic, Heatseeker is the favorite... end of story.

Zenyatta is a SUPER nice filly, obviously the best out there right now. Almost Azeri-esque. Overcame a LOT today and still won for fun. But I'm not sure she's ready for the Classic... yet.

Azeri may have won the 2002 Classic.

justindew · #5 06-01-2008, 08:30 AM

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The Classic? However will she be able to match up with Zanjero?

At the end of the day, if Curlin and Big Brown don't run in the BCC, who is there to be afraid of?

justindew · #6 06-01-2008, 08:45 AM

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Besides Zanjero?

With the race being more than 5 months away, it's a bit tough for me to give you others pointing towards it. It's much easier to throw out names of horses that won't be pointing towards it like you did. However, I don't see her beating Heatseeker. She's very nice, I'm not trying to take anything away from her. But, put her in the Californian yesterday. Does she beat Heatseeker? No way.

I don't think Lukas/Paulson saw Azeri beating Ghostzapper.

There aren't many years where it looks like a good time for a girl to tackle the boys at the Grade I level. But this looks like it could be one of those years to me. That's all I'm sayin'.

horseofcourse · #7 06-01-2008, 09:39 AM

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Besides Zanjero?

With the race being more than 5 months away, it's a bit tough for me to give you others pointing towards it. It's much easier to throw out names of horses that won't be pointing towards it like you did. However, I don't see her beating Heatseeker. She's very nice, I'm not trying to take anything away from her. But, put her in the Californian yesterday. Does she beat Heatseeker? No way.

Look at the fractions of the two races side by side. She could have gone a little faster. Yeah, she can run with Heatseeker.

hockey2315 · #8 06-01-2008, 10:50 AM

I'm just hoping the Euros send over some good turf horses to run in the classic to make this thing even remotely interesting.

horseofcourse · #9 06-01-2008, 11:05 AM

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Seriously?

Yeah seriously. Tell me the major differences in the two races yesterday??

King Glorious · #10 06-01-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

If Big Brown and Curlin aren't in the Classic, Heatseeker is the favorite... end of story.

Zenyatta is a SUPER nice filly, obviously the best out there right now. Almost Azeri-esque. Overcame a LOT today and still won for fun. But I'm not sure she's ready for the Classic... yet.

If BB and Curlin aren't there and Heatseeker is the favorite, even if he beats her, running second in the race wouldn't be bad at all. A second or third in the Classic would be better on her resume, IMO, than a win in the Distaff.

10 pnt move up · #11 06-01-2008, 12:45 PM

How about the dopes on TVG....saying its been a long long time since Hollywood has seen a filly like this....um Azeri raced there 4 years ago, man people just cant help but getting caught up in todays moment.

King Glorious · #12 06-01-2008, 12:50 PM

I posted earlier without thinking things through. Upon further thought, I'd take Zenyatta over Big Brown at this point. She's been every bit as impressive and has beaten better horses. Ginger Punch is light years better than anything Big Brown has beaten and she looked like a claimer against Zenyatta. And before anyone reminds me that Big Brown has much more room for improvement considering that he's only run five races, think about how many Zenyatta's run.

RolloTomasi · #13 06-01-2008, 05:10 PM

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And before anyone reminds me that Big Brown has much more room for improvement considering that he's only run five races, think about how many Zenyatta's run.

How about reminding you that Big Brown has run at 9f or further 3 times while Zenyatta hasn't been further than 8.5f.

Also, Ginger Punch, a weak champion in a weak division last year has been subpar even for her in all 3 of her 2008 starts. I'd predict an impending retirement as soon as she lines up against another decent horse this year.

Bogey · #14 07-05-2008, 05:03 PM

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If Big Brown and Curlin aren't in the Classic, Heatseeker is the favorite... end of story.

Zenyatta is a SUPER nice filly, obviously the best out there right now. Almost Azeri-esque. Overcame a LOT today and still won for fun. But I'm not sure she's ready for the Classic... yet.

Heatseeker retired this week. A big blow to the handicap division.