5/31 (HOL): Milady & Californian (Gr. II's)

[blackthroatedwind]

I like Surf Cat a lot as a horse, and Tiago a bit as well, but I have to say, and I said it two weeks ago, that both should have run in the Met Mile. Either could have won.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I like Surf Cat a lot as a horse, and Tiago a bit as well, but I have to say, and I said it two weeks ago, that both should have run in the Met Mile. Either could have won.

they dont listen to me of course but I have been saying Tiago is a mile type horse and not a true distance horse.

I do like the idea of the whitney, that race tends to have alot of pace in it, something he wont get out west, and Tiago is better on dirt, no doubt about that.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

they dont listen to me of course but I have been saying Tiago is a mile type horse and not a true distance horse.

I do like the idea of the whitney, that race tends to have alot of pace in it, something he wont get out west, and Tiago is better on dirt, no doubt about that.

They are crazy if they don't come for the Whitney....especially if Curlin doesn't go.

He would have had a huge shot in the Met. But you know I thought that before the race.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I like Surf Cat a lot as a horse, and Tiago a bit as well, but I have to say, and I said it two weeks ago, that both should have run in the Met Mile. Either could have won.

Tiago is a very nice horse, not sure a 1 turn mile is his best trip but I agree he would have made the Met Mile very interesting.

[CSC]

Obcourse if everything was good with Midnight Lute, he would have looked good in the Met Mile also. This one's a big ?

[jcs11204]

how good is heatseeker ? he is a giants causeway

[Bobby Fischer]

I had the Californian exacta for a dollar.

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

how good is heatseeker ? he is a giants causeway

Heatseaker seems pretty good to me, he ran fast at santa anita, oaklawn and then today.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Heatseaker seems pretty good to me, he ran fast at santa anita, oaklawn and then today.

Haven't revisited it in the video archives, but on paper, his San Diego run at Del Mar might need to be reviewed. He came from just off the pace to make the lead into the stretch before wilting into 5th. I'd imagine this is where Frankel gave up on him as far as being a route horse, but in retrospect, now knowing some of the nuances between these synthetic surfaces, I wonder if this wasn't a "hidden" good race. I assume you followed the Del Mar meet somewhat closely, what's your opinion of that effort in hindsight (the point being the Pacific Classic is likely a main target for this horse this summer)?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Haven't revisited it in the video archives, but on paper, his San Diego run at Del Mar might need to be reviewed. He came from just off the pace to make the lead into the stretch before wilting into 5th. I'd imagine this is where Frankel gave up on him as far as being a route horse, but in retrospect, now knowing some of the nuances between these synthetic surfaces, I wonder if this wasn't a "hidden" good race. I assume you followed the Del Mar meet somewhat closely, what's your opinion of that effort in hindsight (the point being the Pacific Classic is likely a main target for this horse this summer)?

he seems legit to me, even if curlin and big brown are in the classic, i give heatseeker a shot

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Haven't revisited it in the video archives, but on paper, his San Diego run at Del Mar might need to be reviewed. He came from just off the pace to make the lead into the stretch before wilting into 5th. I'd imagine this is where Frankel gave up on him as far as being a route horse, but in retrospect, now knowing some of the nuances between these synthetic surfaces, I wonder if this wasn't a "hidden" good race. I assume you followed the Del Mar meet somewhat closely, what's your opinion of that effort in hindsight (the point being the Pacific Classic is likely a main target for this horse this summer)?

Video does not show up for him that far back on Calreplays but what you describe was the death move at Del Mar last year, any sustained run that began on the turn ended up in defeat. If I owned him I would point to a dirt race back east instead of running at del mar, in fact thats my advice for most stake horses. I would not run Tiago there, or Zenyatta, heck anything I thought was a nice horse.