Why Andy Beyer is a Legend

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

As many of you know, Andy Beyer went to South America this winter to take a stab at South American racing. He spent hours making figs for their races and was unfortunately faced with a huge takeout and miniscule pools that made real wagering virtually impossible. But, while it was a great exercise and a fun time, until today it was also a financial waste of time.

While riding the train out to Belmont today I got a call from Andy telling me he was making a huge bet at Belmont. Now, this is the time that I would usually be smart to hang up and tell him I lost service, but recklessly I allowed him to go further. In the second race, an extraordinarily weak maiden race, Andy told me that #4 Emotival was his huge bet. Three races back in Argentina Emotival had finished a close third and Andy had given him a figure of 77 which towered over today's field. Two back when he finished fifth at 1 1/8 miles ( today's race was a mile ) the horse had been right there in midstretch and last time when he faltered badly at 1 1/4 miles he had been scorched in a torrid speed duel. He said he was fully confident in the 77 figure and considering today's field he was sending it in. That was good enough for me and I followed suit.

Emotival, if you don't know, paid $21 after holding off the odds on favorite....and Beyer was repaid for his hours of work in preparation for his South American adventure. At a time when having an edge using speed figures is virtually non-existant, Andy Beyer did the near impossible, and for a few minutes turned back the clock.

That horse was key in my Pick 4 in which I hit for $2596

[AeWingnut]

I keyed the horse on top of my trifecta

I didn't have to go anywhere

[justindew]

In a related story, my brother called me as I was on my way to the movie theater and warned me that the new Indiana Jones flick was a pile of garbage. Unlike BTW, I did NOT listen when I should have and I am now $9 lighter in the wallet.

I wish I got calls from professional handicappers giving me $21 winners.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by justindew

In a related story, my brother called me as I was on my way to the movie theater and warned me that the new Indiana Jones flick was a pile of garbage. Unlike BTW, I did NOT listen when I should have and I am now $9 lighter in the wallet.

I wish I got calls from professional handicappers giving me $21 winners.

it's not the $9. it's the 2 hours of your life.

and much as i respect the 2 andy's, i'm pretty sure you don't want them calling you every time they think they have an angle.

[geeker2]

Call me sentimental..but I actually liked the story..it reminded me of an episode of the Odd Couple...

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's not the $9. it's the 2 hours of your life.

and much as i respect the 2 andy's, i'm pretty sure you don't want them calling you every time they think they have an angle.

Yeah it would be hell on the cell phone bill taking both of those call as they occur about once every six months....passing races when you should is like winning for these guys.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Huh?

Andy Beyer doesn't strike me as a guy who makes many "huge" plays a year.
Serling seems to preach "pick your spots" or don't play races where form is suspect or Maiden races or first timers or turf sprints and the list just goes on.

Both Beyer and BTW seem to be about realizing that " you can beat a race but you can't likely beat the races" if you play every race on a card or multiple cards in this era of simulcast. My instincts tell me that Andy Beyer probably says that same thing to BTW fairly infrequently. The phone isn't going to be ringing Andy to Andy for huge bets very frequently. These guys win because they don't play to play but only when they have an edge for sure which is less often than most of us think.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Andy Beyer doesn't strike me as a guy who makes many "huge" plays a year.
Serling seems to preach "pick your spots" or don't play races where form is suspect or Maiden races or first timers or turf sprints and the list just goes on.

Both Beyer and BTW seem to be about realizing that " you can beat a race but you can't likely beat the races" if you play every race on a card or multiple cards in this era of simulcast. My instincts tell me that Andy Beyer probably says that same thing to BTW fairly infrequently. The phone isn't going to be ringing Andy to Andy for huge bets very frequently. These guys win because they don't play to play but only when they have an edge for sure which is less often than most of us think.

as much as i respect the 2 andy's i stiil occasionally take the cigar out of my mouth.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Andy Beyer doesn't strike me as a guy who makes many "huge" plays a year.
Serling seems to preach "pick your spots" or don't play races where form is suspect or Maiden races or first timers or turf sprints and the list just goes on.

Both Beyer and BTW seem to be about realizing that " you can beat a race but you can't likely beat the races" if you play every race on a card or multiple cards in this era of simulcast. My instincts tell me that Andy Beyer probably says that same thing to BTW fairly infrequently. The phone isn't going to be ringing Andy to Andy for huge bets very frequently. These guys win because they don't play to play but only when they have an edge for sure which is less often than most of us think.

I can safely say I agree with very little of this.

You do seem to try to interpret a lot of information that really isn't there. This post was just a fun story and a little kick to all those that make silly claims that Beyer is a lousy horseplayer.