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Old 05-25-2008, 10:40 AM
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hmmm.
so much for dutrows talk about wishing the belmont was right now, since his horse isn't as ready as he thought.
they say it doesn't mean he's out, but can he make it with one?
Against this group, he could probably win on two feet but I'd doubt they'd risk running him.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:41 AM
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Against this group, he could probably win on two feet but I'd doubt they'd risk running him.
which is the exact thinking bobby frankel had with empire makers' foot and the kentucky derby.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:43 AM
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It would be a bad time to take the Blood Pressure of any NYRA executive.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:46 AM
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Against this group, he could probably win on two feet but I'd doubt they'd risk running him.
Yeah. We see horses come over from Japan and win grade 2's at Belmont in their second start all the time. Especially off just 1 workout. Why not factor in the horse's mother has produced the winner of the last 2 belmonts and his father was the HOY that destroyed everything he faced at Belmont.

You want to mention how Casino Drive also threw up a faster beyer in the race than Big Brown threw up in the Preakness.

Big Brown might win, but if he isn't 100% he has absolutely no chance of beating a horse like Casino Drive.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:48 AM
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Yeah. We see horses come over from Japan and win grade 2's at Belmont in their second start all the time. Especially off just 1 workout. Why not factor in the horse's mother has produced the winner of the last 2 belmonts and his father was the HOY that destroyed everything he faced at Belmont.

You want to mention how Casino Drive also threw up a faster beyer in the race than Big Brown threw up in the Preakness.

Big Brown might win, but if he isn't 100% he has absolutely no chance of beating a horse like Casino Drive.
The odds of Better Than Honour throwing 3 Belmont winners in a row are very slim.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:50 AM
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The odds of Better Than Honour throwing 3 Belmont winners in a row are very slim.
The odds of producing 2 were very slim. Right now, if BB isn't 100%, there is no other horse that can beat Casino Drive. Casino Drive might not even be as good as Big Brown, but he is going to be the beneficiary of weak competition, just like Big Brown was.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:53 AM
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The odds of producing 2 were very slim. Right now, if BB isn't 100%, there is no other horse that can beat Casino Drive. Casino Drive might not even be as good as Big Brown, but he is going to be the beneficiary of weak competition, just like Big Brown was.
Casino Drive has already been the beneficiary of weak competition.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:58 AM
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Casino Drive has already been the beneficiary of weak competition.
I agree. The 3yr olds that Big Brown and Casino Drive have beaten are very slow horses.
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dutrow trying to get price...?
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Casino Drive has already been the beneficiary of weak competition.
And carrying lite weight.
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Yeah. We see horses come over from Japan and win grade 2's at Belmont in their second start all the time. Especially off just 1 workout. Why not factor in the horse's mother has produced the winner of the last 2 belmonts and his father was the HOY that destroyed everything he faced at Belmont.

You want to mention how Casino Drive also threw up a faster beyer in the race than Big Brown threw up in the Preakness.

Big Brown might win, but if he isn't 100% he has absolutely no chance of beating a horse like Casino Drive.
don't even bother arguing with . "this horse could beat this bunch on 2 legs" people. the best is when i'm at the track and some idiot says "this horse can't lose". i always feel like saying how many horse races have you seen and bet ? and sometimes its guys that have been going to the track forever. any horse can lose any race thats why they run them to begin with. whenever i here that crap on a short price horse it tells me to bet more on who i like. big brown with the injury plus a mile and a half will be in deep water. i would not even count out tale of ekati or dennis of cork . let the "this horse can't lose people " cash their $3.00 or less mutuel.
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