Watching race replays

[philcski]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

of course it isn't, the guy stays up all night to figure out this stuff. i said before, its ALWAYS either bad rides by dumb jockeys, cheating trainers, or a conspiracy by those in the know.

I hate rehashing races, especially ones that were on well past my bedtime that I had no financial interest in, but the bottom line is the horse shouldn't have been 5-1. You had two horses coming out of a hopelessly bad Snow Chief, a horse 2nd off a year and a half layoff that was sent up to Bay Meadows by O'Neill for his return (now THAT'S a vote of confidence ), a confirmed 1-17 mediocrity in Dr. Zaentz, and three coming out of two very competitive allowance races. Of the three, while it's convienent to say "hey, this one finished third of the three both times", why wouldn't you at least note that he had picked up two lengths vis a vis the previous race, raced widest of the three in the previous races, and worked a bullet in the interim? Not to mention, with only 4 starts had arguably the highest upside of the three? Wouldn't that be the RIGHT horse to bet at 5-1 when the other two were 2-1 and 3-1??

But it's easier to say he cheated I guess.

[the_fat_man]

What began as a potentially interesting thread, FINALLY after all these months,

reduces to all the regulars (whose opinions I respect) arguing with some PARANOID DOOFUS,
who's been in my IGGY bin for months,
and is CLUELESS when it comes to watching races.

There are so many interesting/intricate components of tripping. Guess we're not discussing them here.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What began as a potentially interesting thread, FINALLY after all these months,

reduces to all the regulars (whose opinions I respect) arguing with some PARANOID DOOFUS,
who's been in my IGGY bin for months,
and is CLUELESS when it comes to watching races.

There are so many interesting/intricate components of tripping. Guess we're not discussing them here.

Sad but true.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What began as a potentially interesting thread, FINALLY after all these months,

reduces to all the regulars (whose opinions I respect) arguing with some PARANOID DOOFUS,
who's been in my IGGY bin for months,
and is CLUELESS when it comes to watching races.

There are so many interesting/intricate components of tripping. Guess we're not discussing them here.

there are...and fortunately very few players understand them (not saying I do) so there is value there. I would also say that pace intricacies play a large role in watching a trip that are difficult to understand.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What began as a potentially interesting thread, FINALLY after all these months,

reduces to all the regulars (whose opinions I respect) arguing with some PARANOID DOOFUS,
who's been in my IGGY bin for months,
and is CLUELESS when it comes to watching races.

There are so many interesting/intricate components of tripping. Guess we're not discussing them here.

why not? discuss away.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

why not? discuss away.

Oh sweet Jesus. Now we're going to hear about cyclists. Just kill me now.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by philcski

I hate rehashing races, especially ones that were on well past my bedtime that I had no financial interest in, but the bottom line is the horse shouldn't have been 5-1.

Took like 6 guys to even get him in the gate last night. Look, this is not a race I am bitter about. The race was full of cheats like Stein n' Sadler. This was a good outcome for my ticket. I just didn't put that horse with odd connections in ( for the 6th race.) That was indeed a mistake. Went two deep in the the 5th(got thru.) Singled the horse who got put up in the last. Took all in the 7th. I just blew the 6th race. Twice COMOROS couldn't finish up as well as others. They fixed that problem. He was all the sudden full of run, and smoked these horses.This is a trainer who has been in trouble for high CO2 before. It's not like he isn't a cheater. He is a cheater. We don't punish trainers here that have high CO2. Look n' you'll see the rewards outweigh the punishment (which is go on vacation, or bring your horses to a special barn.) I love all the cases being made for a horse who the great Brian the Bold went right by last time. I don't think he took this race without enhancement. You forced me to admit I even used Brian the Bold last night. F this other horse. I ADMITTED TO having that hanging dog BRIAN D BOLD ON MY TICKET.

[2Hot4TV]

Back to the original subject of watching replays,,,,,

Belmont 5/24 5th race "Cant Buy Love", if you watch this horse on the grass are we seeing a horse that doesn't like the footing?

Is he a bet back on the dirt?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Back to the original subject of watching replays,,,,,

Belmont 5/24 5th race "Cant Buy Love", if you watch this horse on the grass are we seeing a horse that doesn't like the footing?

Is he a bet back on the dirt?

Is that a trick question?

Would you bet on a track and field sprinter, specializing in the 100 meter dash, in a 200M race?

Just when Campo had all the handicappers up in arms about all the turf sprints, AS IN 6F, he was carding at BEL (and 5.5F at SAR),

he now gives a new twist; just about the most impossible race to handicap: 7F on the BEL turf. Too long for sprinters, especially those not accustomed to the long turn and stretch run, and, more often than not, too short for 2 turners.

[Bobby Fischer]

Improve your understanding of the actual sport

that is the foundation for getting a lot out of replays.

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Improve your understanding of the actual sport

that is the foundation for getting a lot out of replays.

You should make fortune cookies. This stuff is priceless.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You should make fortune cookies. This stuff is priceless.

Coach, I got a funny fortune cookie today - "HELP I'M TRAPPED IN A CHINESE BAKERY" - I didn't know what to make of it, but the general tsoa w/ extra hot sauc3 was on point.


watching race replays isn't just looking for "trips" and then shuffling back to your speed figure. Maybe you know this, I honestly don't have a feel for you, other than a pretty sharp sense of humor.

A lot of general horseplayers are like a Stats Geek in baseball who knows all the On base% and Slugging% and goes through the box score, but he never really played sports or took a big interest in the Actual Sport of baseball.

Maybe he bets $$ on baseball. Maybe its in Rotissery or Fantasy...
But he doesn't notice when the pitcher really has to dig down in the glove to grip the splitter. He doesn't know if the pitcher will throw a 2-0 or 3-1 breaking ball.

He doesn't know the tracks - i mean "stadium" dimensions. He doesn't know if the batter hit the top or the bottom of the baseball for that weak ground out. He vaguely recollects something about a hit-and-run and isn't 100% sure about the slugger's intentions.


You look at a race replay and all you see is the Actual Sport of horseracing.

The more you learn about the basics, the stronger your visual interpretation will be.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Is that a trick question?

Would you bet on a track and field sprinter, specializing in the 100 meter dash, in a 200M race?

Just when Campo had all the handicappers up in arms about all the turf sprints, AS IN 6F, he was carding at BEL (and 5.5F at SAR),

he now gives a new twist; just about the most impossible race to handicap: 7F on the BEL turf. Too long for sprinters, especially those not accustomed to the long turn and stretch run, and, more often than not, too short for 2 turners.

Not a trick ? I just think the horse wasn't getting a hold of the turf. The whole race he never seem to have a comfortable stride. Looked much better on dirt.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Not a trick ? I just think the horse wasn't getting a hold of the turf. The whole race he never seem to have a comfortable stride. Looked much better on dirt.

Ummmmmmmmm

Let me take another stab: you're Fischer under another handle?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Ummmmmmmmm

Let me take another stab: you're Fischer under another handle?

fat man impersonation of the day



"Its like CYCLING

you had another GEAR

but JOHNNY V INNEXPLICABLY GOES WIDE!!!
ever heard of DRAFTING DOOFUS?

i thought this was actually going to be about CYCLING
and instead you get a typical SUCKUP trip where the third choice makes last run and gets fourth.
goood thing im not associated with P.A. or FISCHER
Keeneland is the best replay but i need an eltromagnet to see the BELMONT head-onz / I should save money like hollywood park's replay crew

trivial.

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