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Old 05-23-2008, 08:22 AM
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Even the one who looks like lone speed?

She was lone speed last time and caved readily. Why is today going to be different? And, aren't you worried that one of the two inside might have speed?

I don't completely disagree with you, and am guessing you see that her better races were at Belmont, I'm just wondering how much horse she really is. But, I guess she could win. I'm just sort of married to another horse in the race....but unfortunately one with no speed.
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:47 AM
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The last one was longer and Ochre's not a bad horse (even though she crushed this one). . . The 6 seconds are obviously something to worry about but at least her win came at Belmont. I guess the 1 and 2 could have speed but it was a tough read for me. . .
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:00 AM
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you will not see kent hitting any small holes or ripping it up the rail in tight for a wile...imo
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:09 AM
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The last one was longer and Ochre's not a bad horse (even though she crushed this one). . . The 6 seconds are obviously something to worry about but at least her win came at Belmont. I guess the 1 and 2 could have speed but it was a tough read for me. . .
I don't like her. She'll be way too short of a price for a 15/1-6-2 horse. I'd try to beat Backseat Rhythm as well, probably using Thiella and Borrowing Base.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:22 AM
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I don't like her. She'll be way too short of a price for a 15/1-6-2 horse. I'd try to beat Backseat Rhythm as well, probably using Thiella and Borrowing Base.
i give born to be a good shot..
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:36 AM
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i give born to be a good shot..
I don't see it, but whatever floats your boat.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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I don't like her. She'll be way too short of a price for a 15/1-6-2 horse. I'd try to beat Backseat Rhythm as well, probably using Thiella and Borrowing Base.
Ya - I know what you're saying but her win did come here with Kent (for what that's worth). . . I expect Thiella to get bet down and don't really see where she ever ran a race worthy of the price she'll probably be. All the DRF guys like her and Clement/Gomez will draw money. Borrowing Base was the other horse I liked a little in here besides the 6, but I can't take a price that low on Samyn/Quick. No wins and only two on the board turf finishes makes her unappealing to me too.

I wouldn't bet Born to Be at 3-1 if my life depended on it. Shouldn't mind the distance but her previous form is nothing special and Matz horses get overbet sometimes. . .
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:01 AM
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There's one I like in the 8th today quite a bit- Red Hot Bullet @ 12-1 ML. Came home in :12 flat last out to win going away at Keeneland, and a repeat of that performance at the same trip would be very competitive.
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:13 AM
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There's one I like in the 8th today quite a bit- Red Hot Bullet @ 12-1 ML. Came home in :12 flat last out to win going away at Keeneland, and a repeat of that performance at the same trip would be very competitive.
I thought she ran well also; though I don't necessarily think her last 1/8 was a noteworthy as you do and there were a few others coming with her late. There are a BUNCH of cut back horses in there today. Horses like Cato Major, for example, that bid in longer races.
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Old 05-23-2008, 11:39 AM
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My horse in the 7th probably moves up a little if the turf is really still "good."
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Old 05-23-2008, 12:59 PM
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I thought she ran well also; though I don't necessarily think her last 1/8 was a noteworthy as you do and there were a few others coming with her late. There are a BUNCH of cut back horses in there today. Horses like Cato Major, for example, that bid in longer races.
I also think Cato Major is interesting on the cutback, would be the other one I'd play at the ML. we definitely have the cold trainer angle locked up on this pair... Kimmel 5-83 and Jolley 1-17, ugh
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