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Old 05-22-2008, 07:31 PM
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I'm sorry you hate Commentator. It must make it hard for you to get through the day.

I bet Bobby Frankel ( ya know....he trains First Defence...when Dixie is unavailable ) and Kiaran McKlaughlin would laugh at your assertions. The fact is that Commentator has run many races better than either of the supposed better horses you unobjectively called better. Divine Park had a dream trip in his one good race. The rest of his races are somewhere between marginal and horrible. First Defence, so far, has disappointed in any real test he has had, save perhaps the King's Bishop. Comparing them to Commentator is beyond laughable.

When you get the pps for the Met Mile I suggest you take a good look at them. Have a self relflective moment.....and see just how ridiculous your statement was.
Take a breath Andy, it's a freaking opinion. Obviously I don't think either of them will beat Commentator if he's loose on the lead, and when he gets his own way, great, he runs fast times, but it's lame to say that he's better because he's got a bunch of big speed figures under perfect circumstances. I think consistent, if slightly slower horses are better than faster horses that need about seven horizontal lines in their past performances.

You make early judgments all the time.. "Harlem Rocker.. This is a very serious three-year-old".. You don't know that ****, but it's your opinion, and I'm not gonna step in and say "No, he isn't."
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:40 PM
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Take a breath Andy, it's a freaking opinion. Obviously I don't think either of them will beat Commentator if he's loose on the lead, and when he gets his own way, great, he runs fast times, but it's lame to say that he's better because he's got a bunch of big speed figures under perfect circumstances. I think consistent, if slightly slower horses are better than faster horses that need about seven horizontal lines in their past performances.

You make early judgments all the time.. "Harlem Rocker.. This is a very serious three-year-old".. You don't know that ****, but it's your opinion, and I'm not gonna step in and say "No, he isn't."

Like it or not, Joey, I have a record to back up my opinions. You don't.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:46 PM
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Like it or not, Joey, I have a record to back up my opinions. You don't.
So I guess I'm not allowed to have them? Didn't realize that's how this worked.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:50 PM
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So I guess I'm not allowed to have them? Didn't realize that's how this worked.

You playing the victim? Do the boys in Brooklyn know about this?

Your " opinion " in this case is indefensible. Take a look at the relative pps, and as hard as it is try to forget how much you hate Commentator, and tell me seriously on Monday ( you're coming out....right? ) that you think they have form to back up that they are better horses.

Divine Park, if he continues to run like he did last time, might be ( at least now ). Who knows, First Defence, under Dixie's excellent tutelage, could impove. But, so far, Commentator has walked the walk....and they haven't.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:53 PM
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You playing the victim? Do the boys in Brooklyn know about this?

Your " opinion " in this case is indefensible. Take a look at the relative pps, and as hard as it is try to forget how much you hate Commentator, and tell me seriously on Monday ( you're coming out....right? ) that you think they have form to back up that they are better horses.

Divine Park, if he continues to run like he did last time, might be ( at least now ). Who knows, First Defence, under Dixie's excellent tutelage, could impove. But, so far, Commentator has walked the walk....and they haven't.
dont they have 3 more years to walk..im a commentator fan and hope he runs well..and hope that we get a good race..
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:07 PM
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You playing the victim? Do the boys in Brooklyn know about this?

Your " opinion " in this case is indefensible. Take a look at the relative pps, and as hard as it is try to forget how much you hate Commentator, and tell me seriously on Monday ( you're coming out....right? ) that you think they have form to back up that they are better horses.

Divine Park, if he continues to run like he did last time, might be ( at least now ). Who knows, First Defence, under Dixie's excellent tutelage, could impove. But, so far, Commentator has walked the walk....and they haven't.
It all depends on your definiton of "better", but I'm too exhausted to go down that road with you again. If your only criteria for judging performance is speed figures, then of course Commentator is better.

And I'm well-acquainted with his PP's, so a look at the Met Mile PP's won't tell me anything other than that he's going to run another 115-120 figure when allowed everything his own way. **** is boring to me, really. Maybe it gives Andy Beyer an erection, but not me.

I still think Divine Park and First Defence are as good as him, if not better. Sorry.

And yeah, I'll be out there on Monday with my old man. Hope to see ya.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:10 PM
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It all depends on your definiton of "better", but I'm too exhausted to go down that road with you again. If your only criteria for judging performance is speed figures, then of course Commentator is better.

And I'm well-acquainted with his PP's, so a look at the Met Mile PP's won't tell me anything other than that he's going to run another 115-120 figure when allowed everything his own way. **** is boring to me, really. Maybe it gives Andy Beyer an erection, but not me.

I still think Divine Park and First Defence are as good as him, if not better. Sorry.
Yeah, silly me, I only look at speed figures.

You, on the other hand, might want to take accomplishments into account. First Defence has none.

As for being sorry......it's an interesting choice of words.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:13 PM
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Yeah, silly me, I only look at speed figures.

You, on the other hand, might want to take accomplishments into account. First Defence has none.

As for being sorry......it's an interesting choice of words.
you know who i am .."slap" im andy surling biz-nitch!!!

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Old 05-22-2008, 08:13 PM
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I've always been a fan of First Defence. Ran his guts out against Hard Spun at Saratoga. Got a good set up; never able to get all the way by and HS won it. Great throwdown in the stretch between those two.

I'm excited to see how he runs at a mile.

If Commentator is allowed to wheel it on the front, as much as I like First Defence, he's running for second. We'll see if anyone goes with Commentator early.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:46 PM
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Like it or not, Joey, I have a record to back up my opinions. You don't.

so there joey.....jeez just whose sandbox do you think this??? ....j/k j/k

bytheway commentator has been looking like a fit and happy horse in the mornings
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:50 PM
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so there joey.....jeez just whose sandbox do you think this??? ....j/k j/k

bytheway commentator has been looking like a fit and happy horse in the mornings


Rubbin' a little salt in the wounds there, eh Dave?
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