1987 Awesome year of horse racing

parsixfarms · #1 05-20-2008, 11:38 AM

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And don't leave out Manila and his electrifying destruction of Theatrical in the 1987 Arlington Million. Then take a look at the amazing year Theatrical compiled to put it into perspective.

His election to the HOF this year was long overdue. I'd argue that he was the top American grass horse of the past 20 years.

blackthroatedwind · #2 05-20-2008, 11:53 AM

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His election to the HOF this year was long overdue. I'd argue that he was the top American grass horse of the past 20 years.

No argument from me. He was a wonderful horse.

Did you know he broke his maiden in an off the turf race at Hialeah?

hockey2315 · #3 05-20-2008, 11:59 AM

Brian's Time? He might've been a year later. . .

parsixfarms · #4 05-20-2008, 12:04 PM

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Did you know he broke his maiden in an off the turf race at Hialeah?

I didn't know that. After touting him so much, my one lasting in-person memory of Manila's career was him getting beat by Talakeno in a 4-horse Bernard Baruch Handicap that year.

blackthroatedwind · #5 05-20-2008, 12:11 PM

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I didn't know that. After touting him so much, my one lasting in-person memory of Manila's career was him getting beat by Talakeno in a 4-horse Bernard Baruch Handicap that year.

I remember making one late double with Manila and a Mott firster in the last race. It was going to pay $29. I was disgusted after Manila lost to Talakeno ( and Cordero ) and didn't play the last race.

The Mott horse won and paid $31!

#6 05-20-2008, 02:25 PM

I'd like to suggest 1967 as a pretty darn good year.

4 yr olds: Buckpasser, Moccasin and Assagai.
3 yr olds: Dr. Fager, Damascus, Proud Clarion, Gamely, Fort Marcy and Cool Reception
2 yr olds: Forward Pass, Dancer's Image, Dark Mirage, Exclusive Native, Sir Ivor and Vaguely Noble.

Of course, 1968 saw the introduction of Shuvee, Arts & Letters, Reviewer, Majestic Prince, Ta Wee, Ack Ack and Gallant Bloom. Another great year.

Split Rock · #7 05-20-2008, 04:27 PM

Great replys from everyone. Thank you.

Agreed that Seeking the Gold and Winning Colors were non issues in '87 and in fact, the 2 year old crop of racers that year were so-so, other than Forty Niner. Also, Manila absolutely belonged on that list as well as Cutlas Reality and Afleet.

1967 looked good, too, but it was way before my time so I have no reference point.

The thing that was so cool about racing in '87 through '90 was how often the accomplished horses kept running. To think we had Easy Goer and Sunday Silence racing in 1990 and geared up for a head to head matchup at Arlington before they were injured is amazing. This whole retire before they lose or get injured is killing racing. Just killing it. The best horses rarely keep running (Curlin is an exception).

It's so odd to think that horses are bred to run and as soon as they run a good race or two, they are immediately sent to breed others that can run a handful of times. How many stallions does this country really need?

King Glorious · #8 05-20-2008, 04:52 PM

Crusader Sword was my early 2yo favorite that year. I was a huge fan of Mack Miller and Paul Mellon's Rokeby Stables. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what happened with two of their really good prospects, Red Ransom and Eastern Echo? I really liked both of them. Also, Shug McGaughey had a nice young filly back in 1991 named Grand Gala. Anyone remember her or what happened to her?

slotdirt · #9 05-20-2008, 04:59 PM

Red Ransom:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-r...n=singlesearch

Cannon Shell · #10 05-20-2008, 06:02 PM

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Crusader Sword was my early 2yo favorite that year. I was a huge fan of Mack Miller and Paul Mellon's Rokeby Stables. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what happened with two of their really good prospects, Red Ransom and Eastern Echo? I really liked both of them. Also, Shug McGaughey had a nice young filly back in 1991 named Grand Gala. Anyone remember her or what happened to her?

Are you kidding?

King Glorious · #11 05-20-2008, 06:26 PM

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Are you kidding?

Not that I know of.

blackthroatedwind · #12 05-20-2008, 06:27 PM

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Are you kidding?

I just let it go.

King Glorious · #13 05-20-2008, 06:29 PM

Wow. Excuse me for asking.

freddymo · #14 05-20-2008, 06:32 PM

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Are you kidding?

Let it go it's the internet..Don't you love it?

Danzig · #15 05-20-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Crusader Sword was my early 2yo favorite that year. I was a huge fan of Mack Miller and Paul Mellon's Rokeby Stables. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what happened with two of their really good prospects, Red Ransom and Eastern Echo? I really liked both of them. Also, Shug McGaughey had a nice young filly back in 1991 named Grand Gala. Anyone remember her or what happened to her?

you must not follow breeding much...red ransom turned into a heck of a sire. eastern echo (one i liked) did ok, but then died at 16 of a heart attack. buddy gil and swiss yodeler are probably his best known progeny.

King Glorious · #16 05-20-2008, 07:37 PM

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you must not follow breeding much...red ransom turned into a heck of a sire. eastern echo (one i liked) did ok, but then died at 16 of a heart attack. buddy gil and swiss yodeler are probably his best known progeny.

Thank you for at least attempting to answer the question. You are correct. I don't follow breeding at all. I have zero interest in it so I don't know who has sired whom 98% of the time. What I was trying to find out is if anyone remembered what happened to them on the track, as far as what injuries there were that took them out of racing. Again though, thank you for attempting. I was beginning to think everyone was an ass for no reason.

blackthroatedwind · #17 05-20-2008, 07:40 PM

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I don't follow breeding at all.

Which is why you constantly come up with unrealistic and convaluted schedules for horses that you seem to think make sense and nobody else in the game would follow for reasons you have now told us you don't understand at all.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Danzig · #18 05-20-2008, 07:44 PM

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Thank you for at least attempting to answer the question. You are correct. I don't follow breeding at all. I have zero interest in it so I don't know who has sired whom 98% of the time. What I was trying to find out is if anyone remembered what happened to them on the track, as far as what injuries there were that took them out of racing. Again though, thank you for attempting. I was beginning to think everyone was an ass for no reason.

oh, i thought you meant later, after their racing careers-- which were very short btw. both three lifetime starts. red ransom won two, EE won all three.