Showing Up- HOY dark horse??

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by Flaxen Mane

I am not so sure. The reason he moved him off the dirt in the first place was to keep him out of Barbaro's shadow. If Barbaro had remained healthy he would have probably gone onto the Haskell/Jim Dandy, then the Travers... Showing Up would have gone up against him time and again, switching him to the turf allowed both horses a chance to shine.
He's got a bit of work to do before he get's the BC, but even if he DID end up racing in the Classic and winning, I have to wonder if Barbaro would get the nod due to the fact that he defeated Showing Up in the Derby....

Showing Up would be running in the Travers instead of the Secretariat if he was going back to the dirt. They can't switch surfaces that easily. He is not good enough to beat older horses on the dirt, but is more than good enough to beat any horse on the grass.

There is zero chance of him entering the Classic. He even still works exclusively on the turf. Horses with soundness issues are much better on the turf anyway.

There was a little talk about trying him in a race like the Met Mile on the dirt next year, simply for breeding reasons, but he really is tremendous on the grass and more of a grade 2 dirt horse. You never know though.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Showing Up would be running in the Travers instead of the Secretariat if he was going back to the dirt. They can't switch surfaces that easily. He is not good enough to beat older horses on the dirt, but is more than good enough to beat any horse on the grass.

There is zero chance of him entering the Classic. He even still works exclusively on the turf. Horses with soundness issues are much better on the turf anyway.

There was a little talk about trying him in a race like the Met Mile on the dirt next year, simply for breeding reasons, but he really is tremendous on the grass and more of a grade 2 dirt horse. You never know though.

I agree that he can handle mos tof the best turf horses over here, but do you really think he can handle the best of the Euro's??? I don't think we have any turf horses right now that can prevent another Euro sweep. He was a pretty darn nice dirt horse. There is not any reason to believe he would have any problem switching back and forth. What soundness issues does Showing Up have?
I'm also not too sure that 1 1/2 miles is his best distance...

Scav- I agree w/you, they are afraid of the Euro's. I don't think he'd have a shot at winning the Classic, but I think he has a FAR better shot at hitting the board there than in the Turf.