Memo to Dutrow, Casino Drive is Godzilla

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by CSC

The way Casino Drive is being talked up of late and leading up to The Belmont, Big Brown may be the distant second choice in the race.

now that's just silly I say...3/5 on Big Brown....2/1 on Casino Drive.

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

now that's just silly I say...3/5 on Big Brown....2/1 on Casino Drive.

Big Brown will be 1-9. Take it to the bank. Casino will probably be 4-1, just like Rags. I suspect Casino will do to Big Brown what Rags did to Curlin. The better horse won't win this race but the better 12f horse will win this race. I don't think Big Brown will want that last 1/4.

As for people saying Casino won't be close enough to Big Brown, Casino is a stalker or a front runner. He will be glued to Big Brown the entire way and then we will find out who wants to run 12f. I think Casino will run a solid 226 time. If Big Brown can top that then he deserves to win. This isn't going to be some cakewalk though where Big Brown can run a 228 and win. A sub 110 beyer probably won't do it against Casino at 12f.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Big Brown will be 1-9. Take it to the bank. Casino will probably be 4-1, just like Rags. I suspect Casino will do to Big Brown what Rags did to Curlin. The better horse won't win this race but the better 12f horse will win this race. I don't think Big Brown will want that last 1/4.

As for people saying Casino won't be close enough to Big Brown, Casino is a stalker or a front runner. He will be glued to Big Brown the entire way and then we will find out who wants to run 12f. I think Casino will run a solid 226 time. If Big Brown can top that then he deserves to win. This isn't going to be some cakewalk though where Big Brown can run a 228 and win. A sub 110 beyer probably won't do it against Casino at 12f.

Big Brown is bred to run all day ... not sure why you think he won't get the 12 panels.

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Big Brown is bred to run all day ... not sure why you think he won't get the 12 panels.

He really isn't. He is by a sprinter. Maybe he outruns his pedigree but he is not a 12f horse.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

He really isn't. He is by a sprinter. Maybe he outruns his pedigree but he is not a 12f horse.

whether or not he's a 12F horse, I don't know.
I do know he's going to win a big 12F race on june 7th.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

He really isn't. He is by a sprinter. Maybe he outruns his pedigree but he is not a 12f horse.

more to it than AWD per sire

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

He really isn't. He is by a sprinter. Maybe he outruns his pedigree but he is not a 12f horse.

I would suggest looking a bit further into his female family.

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I would suggest looking a bit further into his female family.

Look all you want. You better have it on top and bottom if you want to run 12f and beat a horse with Casino Drive's pedigree.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Look all you want. You better have it on top and bottom if you want to run 12f and beat a horse with Casino Drive's pedigree.

LOL

Think what you want ... we shall see on June 7th. I don't think the 12 panels is going to be a problem for this horse. As fragile as the Mineshaft's have been, you better hope Casino Drive holds up for a mile and a half.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

The horses who have upset the T.C. candidates haven't had to be great. They just needed to finish up well. It isn't about them. The combination of

1) peaking in the Preakness

2) slightly different surface (looser "big sandy" surface)

3) no tight turns they are so used to

4) 12 f

seems to be what beats them....Not other horses.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Big Brown will be 1-9. Take it to the bank. Casino will probably be 4-1, just like Rags. I suspect Casino will do to Big Brown what Rags did to Curlin. The better horse won't win this race but the better 12f horse will win this race. I don't think Big Brown will want that last 1/4.

As for people saying Casino won't be close enough to Big Brown, Casino is a stalker or a front runner. He will be glued to Big Brown the entire way and then we will find out who wants to run 12f. I think Casino will run a solid 226 time. If Big Brown can top that then he deserves to win. This isn't going to be some cakewalk though where Big Brown can run a 228 and win. A sub 110 beyer probably won't do it against Casino at 12f.

You can tell all this on a maiden score and the US debut? And why is Casino Drive going to run a 110BSF because his plodding half brother did? I am not sure Casino could or would beat his half sister at this point in their respective careers. I think Rags would be second choice if hypothethically she were to be involved. I have no clue how you can project Casino to be better then Rags or more to the point capable of beating Big Brown.

[Ogygian]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Big Brown will be 1-9. Take it to the bank. Casino will probably be 4-1, just like Rags. I suspect Casino will do to Big Brown what Rags did to Curlin. The better horse won't win this race but the better 12f horse will win this race. I don't think Big Brown will want that last 1/4.

As for people saying Casino won't be close enough to Big Brown, Casino is a stalker or a front runner. He will be glued to Big Brown the entire way and then we will find out who wants to run 12f. I think Casino will run a solid 226 time. If Big Brown can top that then he deserves to win. This isn't going to be some cakewalk though where Big Brown can run a 228 and win. A sub 110 beyer probably won't do it against Casino at 12f.

Only two horses since Secretariat have gone 126..Easy Goer and AP Indy,there is no WAY Casino Drive runs a 126...the horse has run two times...two times, let me say it again TWO times and somehow you and these other goofballs think he is a monster. I am hoping to at least see a triple crown winner in my lifetime, hoping to see a good race and BB crosing the line first.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

Big Brown will be 1-9. Take it to the bank. Casino will probably be 4-1, just like Rags. I suspect Casino will do to Big Brown what Rags did to Curlin. The better horse won't win this race but the better 12f horse will win this race. I don't think Big Brown will want that last 1/4.

Depending on how many enter, if Big Brown is 1-9, I don't think it's possible for another horse to be less than 7-1 or so.
With Casino Drive, Denis of Cork and perhaps a few more fresh horses coming in, I highly doubt Big Brown would be 1-9. Even casual fans know how difficult it is winning the triple crown, and many will be trying to beat him on Belmont day.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

now that's just silly I say...3/5 on Big Brown....2/1 on Casino Drive.

You didn't think I was serious, I was trying to illustrate maybe not so effectively how over the top the talk up of Casino Drive is off one 'good' win mind you over a weak field in the Peter Pan is. I mean Godzilla? Come now...He's got promise but keep in mind he has a lot to prove just yet.