Big Brown vs. The Others

[Danzig]

zenyatta handled dirt at oaklawn...and we know curlin is beatable by a female..
would be an interesting race. but as far as an 'equalizing' surface...poly horses run well on that, and dirt horses on dirt-but you don't necessarily see anything equal when either set runs on the others' surface.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Danzig

zenyatta handled dirt at oaklawn...and we know curlin is beatable by a female..
would be an interesting race. but as far as an 'equalizing' surface...poly horses run well on that, and dirt horses on dirt-but you don't necessarily see anything equal when either set runs on the others' surface.

Well Curlin has never run on synthetic, so who knows?

[blackthroatedwind]

Curlin's Preakness win was considerably more impressive than Big Brown's. That isn't even rationally debatable. Big Brown is a very nice horse who is beating significant lessers.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Curlin's Preakness win was considerably more impressive than Big Brown's. That isn't even rationally debatable. Big Brown is a very nice horse who is beating significant lessers.

Yeah, I really wonder what this horse would look like in a more competive crop. I have to imagine they will be hard pressed to give this race much more than a 100 Beyer and he won as easily as can be.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yeah, I really wonder what this horse would look like in a more competive crop. I have to imagine they will be hard pressed to give this race much more than a 100 Beyer and he won as easily as can be.

I didn't pay attention to the other times but it's hard to believe the likes of Icabad Crane, Macho Again and Racecar Rhapsody ran over the low 90s which puts the winner around a 100. On the other hand, today's win was a very rare case of a horse that legitimately could have won by more.

Big Brown is pretty good. But he would have gotten his head handed to him by the Silver Charm - Touch Gold - Free House crew.....and at that time most of us were saying that Silver Charm wouldn't have been a deserving TC winner. How times have changed. At this point, however, I'm ambivalent. I'm very glad we have a horse going for the TC. If he wins....great. If he loses.....that's OK too. It's not going to change anything about the game either way.

I'll still be pounding away on the Sunday card at Belmont on June 8th regardless.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll still be pounding away on the Wednesday card at Belmont on June 11th regardless.

FTFY

There's no racing scheduled for the day after the Belmont.

NT

[pick4]

In 1998 Yankees won 114 games and won an additional 11 in the postseason and won the World Series. In 2006 the St,Louis Cardinals limped into the playoffs after winning 83 games. They got on a roll and won the World Series. The Yanks didn't get extra credit because they won more games. Both organizations won a World Series championship.

The analogy I'm trying to make is it's pointless to compare different years, era's, etc. Curlin had his foes and Big Brown has his. If Big Brown is good enough to win the Belmont Stakes he should be held in high regard for accomplishing the feat. Winning the Triple Crown is a very difficult thing to win.

Spectacular Bid was one of the best horses to ever run. He failed to win the Belmont. Perhaps Dutrow Jr. should ban women and Ron Franklin from entering the barn area for the next three weeks. Big Brown has a big test ahead of him. They don't call the Belmont Stakes " The Test of The Champion for nothing.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

FTFY

There's no racing scheduled for the day after the Belmont.

NT

That's the first time they ever did that in modern times.

OK.....I'll be pounding away on my birthday.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Well Curlin has never run on synthetic, so who knows?

and i bet he won't.