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Old 05-12-2008, 11:24 AM
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We have come face to face with the enemy. And it is us.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:24 PM
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We have come face to face with the enemy. And it is us.

I agree with Beyer's article...meds and breeding are the main problems and changing breeding practices directly is impossible (although the argument that going to poly everywhere would impact breeding is interesting). The whip is more cosmetic but I think it could also be examined. While I seriously doubt that anything could have prevented the tragic breakdown of Eight Belles, perhaps the fallout...especially from INSIDE the racing industry might finally produce some meaningful changes...??
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:41 PM
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I agree with Beyer's article...meds and breeding are the main problems and changing breeding practices directly is impossible (although the argument that going to poly everywhere would impact breeding is interesting). The whip is more cosmetic but I think it could also be examined. While I seriously doubt that anything could have prevented the tragic breakdown of Eight Belles, perhaps the fallout...especially from INSIDE the racing industry might finally produce some meaningful changes...??

Yes, the stallions would object.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:17 PM
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Yes, the stallions would object.

LOL Zippy, although they might enjoy longer, more meaningful relationships rather than "wham, bam, thank you Mam"...LOL!
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:16 AM
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He is 100% correct. It would only be fitting if Dutrow were to win the Triple Crown in a tarnished error of horse racing. Just like Bonds being the HR leader.

Lesson: The trainers with the best veterinarian are the winners.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:52 AM
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Articles like these are more frustrating than informative for just about everyone who bets and follows the sport...we all know what the problem is and it has nothing to do with running on rubber or dirt.

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Old 05-13-2008, 12:27 PM
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"The drawback to this vision, of course, is that horse racing might not be much of a sport if speed became a liability. The thoroughbreds who make the game exciting are the brilliant ones such as Kentucky Derby winner Big Brown -- not the plodders who often win on Polytrack."


So, if he had the money to buy horses, then he probably would be buying the same speed-bred horses that are most vulnerable to breaking down. These "plodders" (he and other speed addicts hate) will keep kickin' the ass of the speed-bred Derby winners trying to get home in the Belmont. They can try to speed up the track all they want come Belmont day, but you can't make those turns tight. The beauty of the Triple Crown is it requires a horse to do very different things. Winning the Derby on concrete is much different than winning the Belmont. As long as people ( like Beyer) keep thinking the "brilliant ones" in the sport are just the ones with speed,then horses will continue to be bred for speed. As long as his pro-speed attitude exists, horses will be bred in a way that results in them being more and more fragile. His own addiction to speed is part of the reason these horses break down so easily. You can't say speed is brilliant, and then turn right around and complain that they breed for it. That would be hypocritical.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:34 AM
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The racing establishment. Horse racing people as a whole for allowing this to happen. I wish I could do more too.
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One of his best recently. I'd vote him racing commissioner in a second if there was such and thing.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:36 PM
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One of his best recently. I'd vote him racing commissioner in a second if there was such and thing.
Co-chair with Crist... we might actually make some progress in this game if that actually happened
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:16 PM
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I'd love to hear responses from people who disagree with you on this one, meaning the hiring of a media type who might not have ever owned or trained a horse, in addition to never having worked in racetrack management, or for an auction company, or for a gate/maintenance crew, or as a vet.

He has, however, bet on horses.
I agree. A good column, but a racing commissioner, I think not.
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