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Old 08-07-2006, 05:03 PM
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I hope Gomez wins our jockey race here so all the gloom and dommers on Gomez eat some crow. I am sick of hearing how bad a jockey this guy is.

Why not just blame Artie's utter mess of a race yesterday on Gomez. He was after all 1/2 and those priced horses never lose.

I hope he smears Johnny V and Edgar Prado in the standings.
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Old 08-07-2006, 05:05 PM
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I hope Gomez wins our jockey race here so all the gloom and dommers on Gomez eat some crow. I am sick of hearing how bad a jockey this guy is.

Why not just blame Artie's utter mess of a race yesterday on Gomez. He was after all 1/2 and those priced horses never lose.

I hope he smears Johnny V and Edgar Prado in the standings.
I know what they'll say if Gomez wins the riding title. They'll say that it was because of his agent.
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Old 08-07-2006, 05:08 PM
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Or the White Mercedes guy. Another very tiresome and frankly very boring story.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:53 PM
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I know what they'll say if Gomez wins the riding title. They'll say that it was because of his agent.
Rupert this pathetic little man needs to be slapped. Watch his ride in race 5 today on the 12 and explain to us all what exactly he was thinking when he allowed himself to get locked in the backside and even you will be at a loss for words at how stupid a rider he is. Good thing God gave him a lot of strength because he is one very stupid indivual.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:37 PM
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Rupert this pathetic little man needs to be slapped. Watch his ride in race 5 today on the 12 and explain to us all what exactly he was thinking when he allowed himself to get locked in the backside and even you will be at a loss for words at how stupid a rider he is. Good thing God gave him a lot of strength because he is one very stupid indivual.
Yes, I saw that race. He got that horse into some trouble. I don't know if she could have won the race or not. She had room late on the rail but she flattened out a little. It's tough to tell if she could have won or not. The only time I will say that a jock definitely cost a horse a race in that type of situation is when the horse is flying late. When a horse finds some room and then just makes a mediocre run, I'm not going to say that they would have won the race. This filly might have made a better late run if she was outside. She may not have liked being down on the rail. There's no way to know for sure.

Anyway, these guys get into trouble in full fields sometimes. Solis got his horse in a ton of trouble in the 7th at Del Mar today. It's hard to tell if she would have done anything with a good ride. She made a little, late run after having a lot of trouble. I doubt she could have won but she had a pretty bad trip. By the way, I had no action on either of those races so I had no emotional stake on the outcome.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:41 PM
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Again, he should be an easy throw out in every race for you. I know I feel that way about some jockeys like Mike Luzzi. Except of course yesterday on the Dog.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:42 PM
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Yes, I saw that race. He got that horse into some trouble. I don't know if she could have won the race or not. She had room late on the rail but she flattened out a little. It's tough to tell if she could have won or not. The only time I will say that a jock definitely cost a horse a race in that type of situation is when the horse is flying late. When a horse finds some room and then just makes a mediocre run, I'm not going to say that they would have won the race. This filly might have made a better late run if she was outside. She may not have liked being down on the rail. There's no way to know for sure.

Anyway, these guys get into trouble in full fields sometimes. Solis got his horse in a ton of trouble in the 7th at Del Mar today. It's hard to tell if she would have done anything with a good ride. She made a little, late run after having a lot of trouble. I doubt she could have won but she had a pretty bad trip. By the way, I had no action on either of those races so I had no emotional stake on the outcome.
Hes got to be incredibly stupid Rup, he just has to be. Why would you break so well and angle over and do everything right, then see a guy coming outside whos gonna lock you in and not do anything about it. I truly think the guy likes trouble. I think he gets a thrill out of doing things the hard way.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:58 PM
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Hes got to be incredibly stupid Rup, he just has to be. Why would you break so well and angle over and do everything right, then see a guy coming outside whos gonna lock you in and not do anything about it. I truly think the guy likes trouble. I think he gets a thrill out of doing things the hard way.
I don't think he saw that guy coming outside of him. It was a really premature move that the other rider made. It happened just past the half-mile pole. I think it totally caught Gomez by surprise because it was such a sudden, premature move by the other rider and it happened very quickly. It was definitely Gomez' fault. You have to be paying attention and expect the unexpected. You can't let someone come outside of you at that point in the race. It would have forced Gomez to move sooner than he would have liked, but you don't have much choice at that point in the race. Once in a while you will see horses still win after getting passed at that point, but it doesn't happen often.
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:17 PM
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I don't think he saw that guy coming outside of him. It was a really premature move that the other rider made. It happened just past the half-mile pole. I think it totally caught Gomez by surprise because it was such a sudden, premature move by the other rider and it happened very quickly. It was definitely Gomez' fault. You have to be paying attention and expect the unexpected. You can't let someone come outside of you at that point in the race. It would have forced Gomez to move sooner than he would have liked, but you don't have much choice at that point in the race. Once in a while you will see horses still win after getting passed at that point, but it doesn't happen often.
It was just awful but you saw the ride like I did so I guess you know that.
Its not like i wake up each day hoping the little twerp will give a bad ride I can talk about you know? I wish he would just ride well. But he really gives rides like that one about once a day and its just plain unprofessional to be so stupid. Really dislike the man, I really do. I can see now why he got into so much trouble.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:54 PM
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I hope Gomez wins our jockey race here so all the gloom and dommers on Gomez eat some crow. I am sick of hearing how bad a jockey this guy is.

Why not just blame Artie's utter mess of a race yesterday on Gomez. He was after all 1/2 and those priced horses never lose.

I hope he smears Johnny V and Edgar Prado in the standings.
Care to bet on that one Tim?
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:55 PM
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Nope. I said I hope, not that I predict. I have no clue who is going to get what mounts but I wouldnt bet against Pletcher's go to guy.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:00 PM
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Nope. I said I hope, not that I predict. I have no clue who is going to get what mounts but I wouldnt bet against Pletcher's go to guy.
Tim you should watch races more closely before you knock the opinion of guys who do. Its no coincidence that everyone who knocks the guy knocks his lack of consistency. Race 5 today was an absolute nightmare stupidly executed ride by Gomez and just another example of how he makes very dumb mental mistakes day after day. Broke great from a bad post and angled over to get a great spot. Tracking in about 5th and clear on teh outside. Grabs his mount and allows not one, but three horses make a move(when he could have pushed the button and made the move the eventual winner made) and get himself hopelessly trapped. Turns a horse with tactical speed into a hopelessly blocked closer and has to jerk her between traffic with too much to do. Just an embarassingly stupid ride. WHy bother breaking and getting a great spot if you are just gonna sit there and let yourself get locked in and shuffled back to 10th. This guy gives some of the dumbest rides you ever saw. I will give you the link Tim so you can watch the replay if you care to. But we aren't making this stuff up, he gives some torturous rides.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:06 PM
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At some point you just have to stop betting him then. If he gives bad ride after bad ride every day, its simple. Just toss his horse.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:11 PM
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I had no dog in that fight...but again...he sat up just a touch before the wire and instead of trying to get his horses nose to the wire, Cornie was working the h*ll out of Inca and lost by half head. If I would have had him boxed in tri's...you think yesterday was bad...I really would have called him names.

and yes...it was a **** ride...waited way to late to make his move.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:12 PM
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Okay it was a terrible ride. Way worse than the one yesterday which I dont think was bad at all.

Resound was pretty awesome today in that turf sprint. Wow, he passed the entire field in the stretch.
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