Kent Desormeaux to ride Casino Drive?

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Sounds to me like they want the best rider they can for the Peter Pan and then they'll deal with the Belmont when it comes. What's the big deal? Are jocks that important anyway?

If jocks aren't that important than I think they could find quite a few that will be available for the Peter Pan and Belmont. This is Belmont Park. There are a ton of top jockeys there.

KD has a reputation for not showing up sometimes. I wouldn't want him to not show up on my horse knowing that my horse might be a threat to his star mount down the road.

[Better Than Honour]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Come on. Is this like some early excuse for how bad Casino Drive is likely to run?

No. I just don't see any reason to not put a jockey on the horse that will be riding him in the Belmont. It is foolish. Pick a jockey for the Belmont and put him on the horse for the Peter Pan.

He won't run poorly. It probably will be a 6-7 horse field and 3 or 4 of them won't be able to run 12f. Casino Drive obviously has the pedigree to go 12f. He will hit the board and be a serious threat to win if BB doesn't show up or can't run the distance, which seems unlikely. Although 12f is a long way to go with bad feet, especially when it is the 3rd race in 5 weeks.

[blackthroatedwind]

How come my Kent on Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass has been ignored?

Oh, I know why, because it completely exposes how stupid this thread is.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

How come my Kent on Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass has been ignored?

Oh, I know why, because it completely exposes how stupid this thread is.

Not ignored. More like "put on hold". It's a good idea to deal with only controversial or conspiracy topic at a time. LOL.

Eric

[paisjpq]

Not a bad move by KD to get on his potential competition. The idea that he will get off BB for casino drive in the belmont, is insane.

[Big Brown]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Not a bad move by KD to get on his potential competition. The idea that he will get off BB for casino drive in the belmont, is insane.

Exactly. Know thy enemy. Don't expect him to 'leave anything in the tank', although that's a rather overused and overhyped cliche anyway.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Big Brown

Exactly. Know thy enemy. Don't expect him to 'leave anything in the tank', although that's a rather overused and overhyped cliche anyway.

Isn't it at least possible that Kent D and Casino Drive's connections are BOTH just trying to win the Peter Pan, and that nobody other than crazy message board types are thinking about the specific ramifications that this 1 minute and 48 seconds will have on how a race four weeks away will be run?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm just brainstorming here (scary, I know)but maybe there aren't a lot of jocks agents willing to make a 2 race committment to an unknown commodity? These guys and girls for the most part are professional. I don't see the big deal.

Yeah, not to mention that you give yourself the best chance to do well in the Peter Pan and then put yourself in the best position to get the best jockeys available for the Belmont.

[MisterB]

So Yamamoto has been pointing this horse to the Belmont since his easy maiden win back in Feb. 1 1/8 mile maiden debut win Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.



cruised 5fl yesterday 59.95.

If he loses to this bunch, he should pack it up and head home.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

So Yamamoto has been pointing this horse to the Belmont since his easy maiden win back in Feb. 1 1/8 mile maiden debut win Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.



cruised 5fl yesterday 59.95.

If he loses to this bunch, he should pack it up and head home.

Exactly.

He will, most likely, lose to this bunch.

Ohhh a five furlong work in 59.95.

Half the field will scratch out of respect for that blazing work.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Ohhh a five furlong work in 59.95.

Half the field will scratch out of respect for that blazing work.

lol

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Exactly.

He will, most likely, lose to this bunch.

Other than Lieutenant Ron, and maybe Shug's horse, this is not a good field.

If the son of Mineshaft has any guts, he should love the Big Sandy.

Maybe the Japanese are shopping, and boosting our economy with their YEN.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Other than Lieutenant Ron, and maybe Shug's horse, this is not a good field.

If the son of Mineshaft has any guts, he should love the Big Sandy.

Maybe the Japanese are shopping, and boosting our economy with their YEN.

Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.

[blackthroatedwind]

Lieutenant Ron will NOT be running.

[hockey2315]

That sucks. . .

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.

The irony of all this is that Kent D. has to be some sort of laughing stock in Japan via his misjudge of the finish line aboard Kotashaan in the '93 Japan Cup.

Maybe they think lightning can't strike twice.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The irony of all this is that Kent D. has to be some sort of laughing stock in Japan via his misjudge of the finish line aboard Kotashaan in the '93 Japan Cup.

Maybe they think lightning can't strike twice.

You don't think KD is a better rider today. He may win the most improved cat.

[Cannon Shell]

Desormeaux rode for a period of time in Japan. Maybe the trainer from there has used him before and values his opinion?

[Linny]

I understand KD taking the mount of Casino Drive. He's a nice horse in a G2 $200k race. My question is why the connections didn't reach out to someone who would retain the mount for the race that is the ultimate goal.