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Old 05-06-2008, 01:04 AM
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I've read a lot of what you've said, and you seem kinda like an even-keeled guy that could throw realistic solutions out there for the problems PETA exposes. Raising hell is actually ok, if the message behind is somewhat realisitic and makes sense... even you must've rolled your eyes when they started pointing fingers at Saez...
I did...that's why I sent them a letter expressing my frustration with their response to this tragedy!
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:45 AM
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they won't care somer, as long as you keep sending them money.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:11 AM
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not sure if this has been addressed, but..
I've been getting beat up by almost everybody because I'm a horse racing fan. 'How can you condone that, Hope you're happy with the money you made on the poor horse, etc.'.
Well, how about the scumbag media outlets that are milking pictures of the poor filly in her last few moments?
These bas tards will do anything to sell ad space and profit from someone else's misery and then use the other side of their mouth to condemn all those associated, (however little) to hell.
The hypocrisy of the almighty dollar!
I will do my best to avoid the following:
kentucky.com, foxsports, and the cincinnati enquirer (barely clinging to life anyway), among others....
thanks, I feel better now....
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:26 AM
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Total opportunistic phonies... Where were they last Monday after 2 horses died at the Rolex Three-Day Event?

60 competed and 2 died. And nary a peep from these frauds. If they were so concerned about ethical treatment, why no outcry then?
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:40 AM
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PETA is a cult and like all cults the first goal is to enrich those directing the operation. I have acquaintances that are former members who have quit because the leadership has become radical almost terroristic... They don't even have the intelligence to research before they spew their pablum.

Two interesting links that really show what they are about...

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downl...7_petakids.pdf

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:35 AM
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PETA is not an animal-helping organization. PETA does no direct work with animals whatsoever. They contribute zero money to shelters or animal rescue or animal protection (read their tax forms, this is public knowledge). They do not lobby for good law change to protect animals in research, livestock on farms, etc.

PETA's stated mission has always been to finance and support complete, 100% elimination of use or ownership of all animals by humans, and they support and encourage violent opposition (including murder and arson) and civil disobedience to do so.

PETA was created to fund and funnel money to ALF, the extremely violent terrorist organization the Animal Liberation Front. PETA also gives money to ELF (an eco-terrorist organization)

The above has been extremely well-documented both in the press and courts of law over the past 27+ years.

Thus, every time there is a tragedy involving animals, PETA is suddenly there with their hands out exploiting the situation, being center in the public eye, screaming for "change" and "protection" for the animals - and trying to get money from those that want to "help those poor animals" in the immediate situation.

PETA doesn't give a damn about racehorses, other than they want all ownership, use and possession of horses by humans eliminated. PETA sees an opportunity to get money. Who do you think pays for the lifestyle of Ingrid Newkirk and her friends in PETA? Why is the IRS taking away PETA's "charitable organization" 501c status? (because it ISN'T a charitable organization that helps animals)

PETA has a very well-organized and well-financed publicity machine, including flying in chosen demonstrators - do you guys think things like demonstrations at the Horse Park today happen by chance? <g>

To support PETA is to chose to financially contribute to violent civil disobedience, including murder and arson, with the goal of ending any and all association with or use of animals by man.

That is all and only what PETA is. That is what they are proud to be - they make no secret of it.
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PETA is a cult and like all cults the first goal is to enrich those directing the operation. I have acquaintances that are former members who have quit because the leadership has become radical almost terroristic... They don't even have the intelligence to research before they spew their pablum.

Two interesting links that really show what they are about...

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downl...7_petakids.pdf

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm

Or, yeah, what he said <vbg>
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:43 AM
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Hopefully this B.S. by PETA is put to good use. Like a murderous Law and Order episode of a PETA official at a racetrack.
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Total opportunistic phonies... Where were they last Monday after 2 horses died at the Rolex Three-Day Event?

60 competed and 2 died. And nary a peep from these frauds. If they were so concerned about ethical treatment, why no outcry then?
This would not be an argument that I would advance. You decry the lack of a "united" front among those in the horse industry - and then take a shot at a non-racing segment of it.
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Old 05-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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This would not be an argument that I would advance. You decry the lack of a "united" front among those in the horse industry - and then take a shot at a non-racing segment of it.
Understand your point. What I'm suggesting is that those attacking racing because of Saturday's events were oblivious to horses in far greater peril 50 miles away a week before. They're insincere and this is one major example of their insincerity. I'm not expecting Eventing and Thoroughbred Racing to provide a unified front. I'm asking that Racing take care of itself here.
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well, found this in my e-mail, I guess it's at least something from somebody...

http://www.ntra.com/blog.aspx?blogid...&month=5&day=5
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Total opportunistic phonies... Where were they last Monday after 2 horses died at the Rolex Three-Day Event?

60 competed and 2 died. And nary a peep from these frauds. If they were so concerned about ethical treatment, why no outcry then?

one perspective on the after effects of Rolex
http://www.kentucky.com/304/story/396616.html
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:40 AM
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not sure if this has been addressed, but..
I've been getting beat up by almost everybody because I'm a horse racing fan. 'How can you condone that, Hope you're happy with the money you made on the poor horse, etc.'.
I tell people that death/euthanasia occurs to less than two-tenths of one percent of the horses that race. That the horses are well-cared for and loved by their caretakers. I speak about Dr. Dean Richardson/Barbaro/New Bolton as a demonstration of what horse people will do for their horses - and how about Chelokee this past weekend? I mention Grayson-Jockey Club research foundation, Old Friends retirement, etc.

You can lead a brain to knowledge, but you can't make it think. You can hope so, though!
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