Triple Crown?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I wasn't a tale of ekati fan, but I was a bit surprised to see the Wood Winner at nearly 40-1.. I mean, he's not great, but he's better than Tapit!!..

Why is he necessarily better than Tapit?

[horseofcourse]

Is there any chance at all Harlem Rocker goes in the Preakness?? I know he was talked about a ton here recently.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Is there any chance at all Harlem Rocker goes in the Preakness?? I know he was talked about a ton here recently.

He was mentioned in the bloodhorse article as a possible starter.
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/article/45042.htm

[CSC]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

He was mentioned in the bloodhorse article as a possible starter.
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/article/45042.htm

Things can change but this was the latest article I found on the web.

Link here for Harlem Rocker: http://www.scaredycatfilms.com/adena...ker/index.html

April 27TH, 2008

This article from the Daily Racing Form mentions that Harlem Rocker may still be pointed towards the Queen's Plate and the Queen's Plate Trial at the start of the month of June. There's also a shout out to the Adena Racing Venture, that we are a small part of. From DRF:

Harlem Rocker remains perfect in Withers
By DAVID GRENING
OZONE PARK, N.Y. - Todd Pletcher's recent assault on North America's 3-year-old graded stakes continued Saturday at Aqueduct when Harlem Rocker blew past odds-on favorite J Be K inside the eighth pole to win the Grade 3, $150,000 Withers Stakes by 2 1/2 lengths.

J Be K, who set all the early fractions under Garrett Gomez, finished second by 7 3/4 lengths over Double or Nothing. Face the Cat was last.

The victory was the third from as many starts for Harlem Rocker, a Canadian-bred son of Macho Uno owned and bred by Frank Stronach. Harlem Rocker is part of the Adena Springs Racing Venture, a package of six Stronach-bred colts that Stronach owns with other partners.

[Zippy Chippy]

After his Derby performance and this lackluster crop of 3-year olds, Big Brown could very well be the next Triple Crown winner.

At first I was bummed thinking about this because it's a situation where he is essentially "the best of the worst"-- not exactly the kind of champion like Secretariat or Affirmed. But on second thought, you can't really hold Big Brown "responsible" for how crappy the rest of the crop is. If he wins it, it is still legitimate because he was better than every other 3-year old that ran against him.

If he isn't retired two days after his win in the Belmont (and that's a big "if"), it would be interesting to see how Triple Crown Champion Big Brown would stand up against a horse like Curlin in the Breeders Cup Classic. That would be a decent measure of what his real class is.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Zippy Chippy

After his Derby performance and this lackluster crop of 3-year olds, Big Brown could very well be the next Triple Crown winner.

At first I was bummed thinking about this because it's a situation where he is essentially "the best of the worst"-- not exactly the kind of champion like Secretariat or Affirmed. But on second thought, you can't really hold Big Brown "responsible" for how crappy the rest of the crop is. If he wins it, it is still legitimate because he was better than every other 3-year old that ran against him.

If he isn't retired two days after his win in the Belmont (and that's a big "if"), it would be interesting to see how Triple Crown Champion Big Brown would stand up against a horse like Curlin in the Breeders Cup Classic. That would be a decent measure of what his real class is.

I don't think it would be a decent measure of what class is -- not here in this forum. Read the threads (most of them) that, before the race, said he had no shot; and then read all of the commentary (perhaps "excuses" would be a better word) after the race. It's ironic that this year's crop got massively worse immediately after Big Brown crossed the finish line.

Personally, I said Big Brown was a "bet against" right from the get-go. No sour grapes here, nor celebrating as I didn't have the filly on one ticket. I took my stand, put up my money and watched that colt go right out and beat me.

Eric

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ELA

I don't think it would be a decent measure of what class is -- not here in this forum. Read the threads (most of them) that, before the race, said he had no shot; and then read all of the commentary (perhaps "excuses" would be a better word) after the race. It's ironic that this year's crop got massively worse immediately after Big Brown crossed the finish line.

Personally, I said Big Brown was a "bet against" right from the get-go. No sour grapes here, nor celebrating as I didn't have the filly on one ticket. I took my stand, put up my money and watched that colt go right out and beat me.

Eric

I love this post. Spoken Like a true man of the game and I agree wholeheartedly.

Although, there were a few on here (BTW comes to mind) that had questions about the quality of the crop BEFORE the race.

I think we have our triple crown champ and i think he beats curlin.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by ELA

I don't think it would be a decent measure of what class is -- not here in this forum. Read the threads (most of them) that, before the race, said he had no shot; and then read all of the commentary (perhaps "excuses" would be a better word) after the race. It's ironic that this year's crop got massively worse immediately after Big Brown crossed the finish line.

Personally, I said Big Brown was a "bet against" right from the get-go. No sour grapes here, nor celebrating as I didn't have the filly on one ticket. I took my stand, put up my money and watched that colt go right out and beat me.

Eric

The same thing happened with the Florida Derby. Before the race, it was a very good field, but afterwards, he beat a bunch of nags.

Of course the crop is bad. But we knew that before the race, and a lot of people still said Big Brown has no shot.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ELA

I don't think it would be a decent measure of what class is -- not here in this forum. Read the threads (most of them) that, before the race, said he had no shot; and then read all of the commentary (perhaps "excuses" would be a better word) after the race. It's ironic that this year's crop got massively worse immediately after Big Brown crossed the finish line.

Personally, I said Big Brown was a "bet against" right from the get-go. No sour grapes here, nor celebrating as I didn't have the filly on one ticket. I took my stand, put up my money and watched that colt go right out and beat me.

Eric

please show me where most of the threads before the race said that Big Brown had no shot. I somehow missed all those threads.