Derby Post Position Selection Order

[Scav]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

How about he's never even come close to running a race fast enough to win the Derby? How about he's never had dirt kicked in his face?

Have you seen some of the performances from California (more specifically Santa Anita) when they have moved to cooked up dirt tracks (Oaklawn specifically).....

I'm betting on that angle right there. You realize that these synthetics put a TON of fitness into these horses, and even running on a deep dirt surface, which Churchill certainly isn't, is like running on concrete.

Maybe people will realize this year when synethics run 1-2-3....

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by Scav

I know that this is a foreign concept for people that don't analyze things, but have you seen some of the performances from California (more specifically Santa Anita) when they have moved to cooked up dirt tracks (Oaklawn specifically).....

I'm betting on that angle right there. You realize that these synthetics put a TON of fitness into these horses, and even running on a deep dirt surface, which Churchill certainly isn't, is like running on concrete.

Maybe people will realize this year when synethics run 1-2-3....

I love the hype this horse is getting...he beat El Gato Malaise by a half a length and the super offspring of Stormy Jack, Bob's Black Jack who's best race is probably a mile, by half a length at a mile and an 1/8th. Whoooppiiee!! He's never Beyered 100. Actually, he's barely shaded 5 lengths slower than 100. And, he's never run on dirt in the afternoon.

This folks is your second choice. And with the PP draw,and some more hype, could be the favorite.

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[Scav]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I love the hype this horse is getting...he beat El Gato Malaise by a half a length and the super offspring of Stormy Jack, Bob's Black Jack who's best race is probably a mile, by half a length at a mile and an 1/8th. Whoooppiiee!! He's never Beyered 100. Actually, he's barely shaded 10 lengths slower than 100. And, he's never run on dirt in the afternoon.

This folks is your second choice. And with the PP draw,and some more hype, could be the favorite.

here in lies the issue of old school handicapping. the Beyer over 100 isn't common on synthetics, I agree there are question marks, let there be them because I am hoping my odds hold.

You are out of your mind thinking this horse will be favored over Big Brown

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by Scav

Have you seen some of the performances from California (more specifically Santa Anita) when they have moved to cooked up dirt tracks (Oaklawn specifically).....

I'm betting on that angle right there. You realize that these synthetics put a TON of fitness into these horses, and even running on a deep dirt surface, which Churchill certainly isn't, is like running on concrete.

Maybe people will realize this year when synethics run 1-2-3....

BBJ won't have much dirt in his face cuz he'll be in front in the stretch and at the wire. So there.

And BBJ will be just off the lead until he muds em or just plain blows em away.