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Old 04-28-2008, 02:03 PM
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I don't think the pace was all that swift, merely average. I don't know Oaklawn well enough to project pace from one distance to another, but the Northern Spur went 1:11 3/5 to the 6F at a mile, so not much slower and those beasts were MUCH worse than the Ark Derby. If it was, perhaps you should credit Gayego more than it sounds like you want to- he did come home in a solid 12.7 seconds after that. That one looks more concerning at 10F, though.

The sad truth is there isn't much to look at beyond Big Brown, Colonel John, and Pyro.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:13 PM
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man, i just hope most people try to outthink the obvious...... big brown should be 1-5.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:16 PM
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man, i just hope most people try to outthink the obvious...... big brown should be 1-5.
He hits the board I am smoked for the whole day.....
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:17 PM
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hey, its just 1 race.......there will be about 25 more to get it back
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:20 PM
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He hits the board I am smoked for the whole day.....
How bout you listen to your uncle Phil, who says forget trying to beat him in every wager and take what's available?
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:24 PM
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How bout you listen to your uncle Phil, who says forget trying to beat him in every wager and take what's available?
Uncle?? we are like the same age I thought.

BIG BROWN GOES DOWN!!
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:28 PM
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Uncle?? we are like the same age I thought.

BIG BROWN GOES DOWN!!
LOL, true... how bout sober friend then!

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Old 04-28-2008, 02:31 PM
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Unfortunetly I might be pretty sober the whole trip also. While my friend is driving down, I have been assigned driving duties for the rest of the trip, so I will have to power drink from 10am to 3pm and then get ready to drive at 7ish after the races
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He hits the board I am smoked for the whole day.....

SCAV I am with you..if he does I'll be heading over to SCORES - but the lap dances will be few....and the tips in coinage.
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SCAV I am with you..if he does I'll be heading over to SCORES - but the lap dances will be few....and the tips in coinage.
there is a Scores in Louisville?
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:20 PM
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man, i just hope most people try to outthink the obvious...... big brown should be 1-5.

Let's hope you're kidding.

Excuse me for missing the obvious....it's Derbytime and people are prone to make even the most inane comments seriously.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:30 PM
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Let's hope you're kidding.

Excuse me for missing the obvious....it's Derbytime and people are prone to make even the most inane comments seriously.
...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:32 PM
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...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.
My negatives for Big Brown
- Beat what?
- Bred to stop at 8f
- running style
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:49 PM
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My negatives for Big Brown
- Beat what?
- Bred to stop at 8f
- running style
Add, never had to look a horse that isn't going to quit in the eye. (Maybe Big Brown wont slow down long enough for them to look him in the eye.)
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:32 PM
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...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.
You said he should be 1:5.

As far as handicapping this race.....they draw in about 52 hours. I have, however, handicapped the first two days at Belmont. I've found 12 better races to bet than this year's Derby.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:36 PM
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You said he should be 1:5.

As far as handicapping this race.....they draw in about 52 hours. I have, however, handicapped the first two days at Belmont. I've found 12 better races to bet than this year's Derby.
....i agree
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Side note, it sure is refreshing to see opening day at Belmont only 48 hours away.
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As far as handicapping this race.....they draw in about 52 hours. I have, however, handicapped the first two days at Belmont. I've found 12 better races to bet than this year's Derby.
You found 12 races in the first two days at Belmont that are better races to bet than a race with an 8/1 shot that is a near cinch to run in the exacta, while in a race that has about 15 throwouts in it!?
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:19 AM
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You found 12 races in the first two days at Belmont that are better races to bet than a race with an 8/1 shot that is a near cinch to run in the exacta, while in a race that has about 15 throwouts in it!?
How's my opinion been lately?
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:40 PM
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How do the MTOs look for Wednesday?

It seems to have stopped raining. I will remain optimistic......it's hard not to for the best day of the year in NYC.

Don't forget, we haven't had any rain for weeks really. We could use some.
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