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Old 08-06-2006, 06:42 PM
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Did you need Edens for 2nd? Or are you talking about Artie Schiller?

How about Kent D yesterday not caring a hoot to ride to try and get in the triple in that last race. That was plain awful.

I'm talking about Eden. I stand by what I thought I saw, but I have to give respect where it is due, most in here are tons better handicappers and race watchers than I am.

Oh well....COry just helped me out in the 4th at DelMar
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Old 08-06-2006, 07:04 PM
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replays are free from nyra.com, for NY races
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Old 08-06-2006, 07:05 PM
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replays are free from nyra.com, for NY races

turn on NBC
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Old 08-06-2006, 07:20 PM
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One thing for sure! He has no sense of pace in the race , lets chase 22, 46 going long real long no clock in this boys head at all I KNOW ONE PERSON ON THIS BOARD will agree with me. Oracle?
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Old 08-06-2006, 07:36 PM
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One thing for sure! He has no sense of pace in the race , lets chase 22, 46 going long real long no clock in this boys head at all I KNOW ONE PERSON ON THIS BOARD will agree with me. Oracle?
They went the half in :46 4/5. GG had her about 4 lengths behind. That means that she was going :47 3/5. The last time she ran, Prado rode her. They went :46 2/5 and Prado only had her 1 1/2 lengths behind. I guess that means that Prado had even less sense of pace than Gomez.

Gomez has as good of a clock in his head as any rider in the country. That is one of the reasons that he has made more in purses than any jockey in the country this year. You may want to check the jockey standings at drf.com and see who the leading rider in the country is. That's amazing how he does that even though he has no clock in his head. LOL.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:00 PM
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My midget ass just needs to learn to watch races better, I reckon.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:03 PM
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My midget ass just needs to learn to watch races better, I reckon.
No matter how good your eye is, you won't see nearly as much from watching the race once as you will if you watch the replay a few times.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:28 PM
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Kev,I think the guy often lacks judgement( not effort.)Seems like Garrett thought the race was a furlong shorter than what it was,but lets avoid the subject.Took all of 15 minutes for you to get the ball-licker's response huh? Not surprised.BTW,do you remember the name of that V Cerin horse that Gomez butchered the ride on going down the hill at Anita? We talked about it one time,but the name escapes me.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:45 PM
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One thing for sure! He has no sense of pace in the race , lets chase 22, 46 going long real long no clock in this boys head at all I KNOW ONE PERSON ON THIS BOARD will agree with me. Oracle?
Now you know 2. Most west coast riders (and Garret is a grad of the SoCal penal colony)can't tell time so there is no need to know what a clock is. You can ask them about Pace and they think Salsa.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:39 AM
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Now you know 2. Most west coast riders (and Garret is a grad of the SoCal penal colony)can't tell time so there is no need to know what a clock is. You can ask them about Pace and they think Salsa.
When he had the bug he frigge- was riding Timonium for goodness sakes and that a fact! Look it up.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:57 AM
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:52 AM
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When he had the bug he frigge- was riding Timonium for goodness sakes and that a fact! Look it up.
When he got out of jail he was in California. Don't care where he rode with his bug, he developed his riding skills in California. They still call the #5 lane turning for the Gomez Lane. Look it up! That's a fact.
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Old 08-06-2006, 07:05 PM
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Nice. Hope you cashed a nice one.

I just watched that last race at Toga over and in my opinion Gomez just wasnt on the 2nd or 3rd bet horse Kev. Dueling in deep stretch with the winner, who had tons, took everything out of Edens.

I know what your saying about guys not riding horses out for 2nd and 3rd. Happens every day. Mike Smith use to be the king of that.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:36 PM
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I'm talking about Eden. I stand by what I thought I saw, but I have to give respect where it is due, most in here are tons better handicappers and race watchers than I am.

Oh well....COry just helped me out in the 4th at DelMar
He may have held 2nd but he definitely would have held 3rd. He needs to be fined for that ride, he really does.
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Old 08-06-2006, 10:27 PM
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He may have held 2nd but he definitely would have held 3rd. He needs to be fined for that ride, he really does.
What are you smoking? He rode the horse all the way to the wire. He didn't stop riding the horse until he was 4th and that happened about one foot from the wire.
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Old 08-06-2006, 11:17 PM
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he was inhaled nearing the wire by a couple horses after running the race fairly close to some swift fractions, he made his move on the turn and tried to steal it but fell short. he got all he could have out of that horse and I think faulting the ride is a little nutty.
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Old 08-06-2006, 11:22 PM
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he was inhaled nearing the wire by a couple horses after running the race fairly close to some swift fractions, he made his move on the turn and tried to steal it but fell short. he got all he could have out of that horse and I think faulting the ride is a little nutty.
not the first, nor last time I will be called nutty.
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Old 08-06-2006, 11:53 PM
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not the first, nor last time I will be called nutty.
i wasn't calling you nutty gpk.
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Old 08-06-2006, 11:56 PM
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i wasn't calling you nutty gpk.
well...why not???
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:04 AM
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My opinion on the guy hasn't changed one bit and its not like I want to have that opinion about him. I'd much rather he just put some polish on his already immense physical skills with some mental work on what the prevailing bias is and knowledge of his own horses' tendencies as well as the others in the race.
Yeah Edgar isnt strong as a bull but he always knows where he is supposed to be with a horse. Johnny is the same way. They also keep tabs on their main opponents in the race and where they are (kinda like The Breeders Cup Sprint when Gomez went for that hole and Prado said where do you think you are going jagoff?). Its splitting hairs when you start talking about things this detailed but in order for him to join Johhny and Edgar as the absolute best he simply has to learn that he does not have a liscense to get the rail move every time and that sometimes you need to send a horse and get an advantage if thats how the race shapes up instead of just grabbing and riding like he prefers to ride.
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