Smooth Air

ateamstupid · #1 04-23-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Just read through the thread and I can understand why a some may like Smooth Air, but as a few have stated, he had every opportunity to win the Florida Derby and flattened out. He is consistently in the money, but I think he's in trouble at a 1 1/4. I think 40-1 would be an underlay. At best, this one will plod up to be part of the super.

Whatever. Name me one horse on the Trail that would've beaten Big Brown that day.

blackthroatedwind · #2 04-23-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Whatever. Name me one horse on the Trail that would've beaten Big Brown that day.

So, in other words, you feel finishing second is all that matters.....the fact that he got beaten by an amount that often results in a 7th place finish is irrelevent?

ateamstupid · #3 04-23-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, in other words, you feel finishing second is all that matters.....the fact that he got beaten by an amount that often results in a 7th place finish is irrelevent?

What? Dude said that "he had every chance to win the Florida Derby and flattened out" as if every other Derby horse wouldn't have done the same thing that day.

IrishofNDMan · #4 04-23-2008, 07:07 PM

would have been nice to see Smooth Air atleast making up a little ground to Big Brown, not back peddling. I'm still unsure with Smooth Air, and if I use it will probably be the bottom part of my tri.

Danzig · #5 04-23-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What? Dude said that "he had every chance to win the Florida Derby and flattened out" as if every other Derby horse wouldn't have done the same thing that day.

you really think that every horse out there would have run the same race as smooth air? smooth air hasn't seen the winners circle since the hutcheson, and hasn't won past that seven furlong distance. i don't think that hitting second by a large margin to big brown, preceded by a third to fierce wind and big truck indicates what another horse would/could do. also, he was in the photo at 1 1/16, but over seven lengths back at the 9 f distance.

fpsoxfan · #6 04-23-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Whatever. Name me one horse on the Trail that would've beaten Big Brown that day.

Not sure anyone would've, but if there was a race that set up for this guy, this was the one. If you like him A-Team, then bet him. I certainly wasn't knocking him, I just simply don't like his chances.

miraja2 · #7 04-23-2008, 08:20 PM

I can't believe there is an 8-page thread about this colt.
For those that are (for some strange reason) impressed with his race at GP, how do you explain away his previous race? It wasn't Big Brown blowing by him in the stretch that day.
The main knock against him that I see is that he has never done a single thing in any of his previous races that indicates he has any shot to win the race. That strikes me as rather important.

ateamstupid · #8 04-23-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I can't believe there is an 8-page thread about this colt.
For those that are (for some strange reason) impressed with his race at GP, how do you explain away his previous race? It wasn't Big Brown blowing by him in the stretch that day.
The main knock against him that I see is that he has never done a single thing in any of his previous races that indicates he has any shot to win the race. That strikes me as rather important.

The reason this thread keeps going is because people like you keep making ridiculous statements like that.

He's run just as well as, or better than, anyone in the field (save Big Brown and Pyro) on figures, and he's got the versatility to adjust to different pace scenarios. What the hell are you talking about?

miraja2 · #9 04-23-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The reason this thread keeps going is because people like you keep making ridiculous statements like that.

He's run just as well as, or better than, anyone in the field (save Big Brown and Pyro) on figures, and he's got the versatility to adjust to different pace scenarios. What the hell are you talking about?

Oh, I disagree. This thread keeps going because after I make all of my brilliant points, people like YOU foolishly choose to disagree with me instead of merely bowing to my superior wisdom.....which is always the best course of action.

Although I don't know how I am going to play the race at this point, I can think of at least six or seven horses - in addition to Pyro and Big Brown -that strike me as much more likely winners than Smooth Air.
He is a one-turn closer if ever there was one.

hockey2315 · #10 04-23-2008, 08:58 PM

Well since he's not really a closer and his best race was around two turns. . .

miraja2 · #11 04-23-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Well since he's not really a closer and his best race was around two turns. . .

If you want to call him a stalker instead of a closer fine. I can see that. But the point remains that he is almost certain to do his best work from off the pace in one-turn races (you know, like the one he actually won this year).

The larger point is that.....THIS HORSE HAS NO CHANCE!!!
I'm done trying to talk people out of betting him. For those of you that insist on playing him, it will be a very nice payout, so I genuinely wish you the best of luck.