Smooth Air

estreetposse · #1 04-23-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Quick answer.....Who cares?

I'm just curious...there wasn't all that much hype about this horse until Steve put up his article(which I think was very well written)...now there is a 3 page thread about him and I was wondering if people are drawing ther own conclusions or hopping on a bandwagon.

Do you really feel the need to start with me?

Gander · #2 04-23-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

I'm just curious...there wasn't all that much hype about this horse until Steve put up his article(which I think was very well written)...now there is a 3 page thread about him and I was wondering if people are drawing ther own conclusions or hopping on a bandwagon.

Do you really feel the need to start with me?

I was thinking the same thing buddy, although I only have a couple horses I am tossing out of all wagers, and I cant seem to do it yet with Smooth Air.
I was thinking while watching the Florida Derby, that the 1-2 finishers there, would be the same 1-2 finishers in Kentucky.

my miss storm cat · #3 04-23-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

I'm just curious...there wasn't all that much hype about this horse until Steve put up his article(which I think was very well written)...now there is a 3 page thread about him and I was wondering if people are drawing ther own conclusions or hopping on a bandwagon.

In a parallel universe, he's been on my short list since february.

I'm sure that's true for others.....

fpsoxfan · #4 04-23-2008, 06:41 PM

Just read through the thread and I can understand why a some may like Smooth Air, but as a few have stated, he had every opportunity to win the Florida Derby and flattened out. He is consistently in the money, but I think he's in trouble at a 1 1/4. I think 40-1 would be an underlay. At best, this one will plod up to be part of the super.

ateamstupid · #5 04-23-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Just read through the thread and I can understand why a some may like Smooth Air, but as a few have stated, he had every opportunity to win the Florida Derby and flattened out. He is consistently in the money, but I think he's in trouble at a 1 1/4. I think 40-1 would be an underlay. At best, this one will plod up to be part of the super.

Whatever. Name me one horse on the Trail that would've beaten Big Brown that day.

blackthroatedwind · #6 04-23-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Whatever. Name me one horse on the Trail that would've beaten Big Brown that day.

So, in other words, you feel finishing second is all that matters.....the fact that he got beaten by an amount that often results in a 7th place finish is irrelevent?

ateamstupid · #7 04-23-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, in other words, you feel finishing second is all that matters.....the fact that he got beaten by an amount that often results in a 7th place finish is irrelevent?

What? Dude said that "he had every chance to win the Florida Derby and flattened out" as if every other Derby horse wouldn't have done the same thing that day.

IrishofNDMan · #8 04-23-2008, 07:07 PM

would have been nice to see Smooth Air atleast making up a little ground to Big Brown, not back peddling. I'm still unsure with Smooth Air, and if I use it will probably be the bottom part of my tri.

Danzig · #9 04-23-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What? Dude said that "he had every chance to win the Florida Derby and flattened out" as if every other Derby horse wouldn't have done the same thing that day.

you really think that every horse out there would have run the same race as smooth air? smooth air hasn't seen the winners circle since the hutcheson, and hasn't won past that seven furlong distance. i don't think that hitting second by a large margin to big brown, preceded by a third to fierce wind and big truck indicates what another horse would/could do. also, he was in the photo at 1 1/16, but over seven lengths back at the 9 f distance.

fpsoxfan · #10 04-23-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Whatever. Name me one horse on the Trail that would've beaten Big Brown that day.

Not sure anyone would've, but if there was a race that set up for this guy, this was the one. If you like him A-Team, then bet him. I certainly wasn't knocking him, I just simply don't like his chances.

miraja2 · #11 04-23-2008, 08:20 PM

I can't believe there is an 8-page thread about this colt.
For those that are (for some strange reason) impressed with his race at GP, how do you explain away his previous race? It wasn't Big Brown blowing by him in the stretch that day.
The main knock against him that I see is that he has never done a single thing in any of his previous races that indicates he has any shot to win the race. That strikes me as rather important.

ateamstupid · #12 04-23-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I can't believe there is an 8-page thread about this colt.
For those that are (for some strange reason) impressed with his race at GP, how do you explain away his previous race? It wasn't Big Brown blowing by him in the stretch that day.
The main knock against him that I see is that he has never done a single thing in any of his previous races that indicates he has any shot to win the race. That strikes me as rather important.

The reason this thread keeps going is because people like you keep making ridiculous statements like that.

He's run just as well as, or better than, anyone in the field (save Big Brown and Pyro) on figures, and he's got the versatility to adjust to different pace scenarios. What the hell are you talking about?

SniperSB23 · #13 04-23-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Just read through the thread and I can understand why a some may like Smooth Air, but as a few have stated, he had every opportunity to win the Florida Derby and flattened out. He is consistently in the money, but I think he's in trouble at a 1 1/4. I think 40-1 would be an underlay. At best, this one will plod up to be part of the super.

If Big Brown runs his race no one is beating him. If he doesn't then it is a wide open race. So I'm not going to hold getting beat by him against anyone.

Gander · #14 04-23-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If Big Brown runs his race no one is beating him. If he doesn't then it is a wide open race. So I'm not going to hold getting beat by him against anyone.

Exactly Sniper. Its not like Smooth Air couldnt get past a wobbly Gayego, or a hurt War Pass, both of who looked like they were drunken sailors. fumes. If Z Fortune was anything, he would have gotten by. Same too with Court Vision who had a rally going but flattened out like a blueberry pancake.
Big Brown embarrased everybody that day in Florida, including Smooth Air, who did what somebody always has to do, finish 2nd. It was a bunch of mediocre horses who for some reason or another, didnt even fire their typical mediocre efforts.

Danzig · #15 04-23-2008, 07:30 PM

i love blueberry pancakes.

Gander · #16 04-23-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i love blueberry pancakes.

Me too, and I also love Court Vision as a racehorse. I think he may make a very nice show bet on Derby Day.

Danzig · #17 04-23-2008, 07:31 PM

welll, then just how special was big brown if he only knocked off a bunch of mediocrities? seriously? and if some of those other horses were wobbly or drunken, what do you call big browns stretch run that day? he was all over the place.

ateamstupid · #18 04-23-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If Big Brown runs his race no one is beating him. If he doesn't then it is a wide open race. So I'm not going to hold getting beat by him against anyone.

That's what I'm saying.