The 3-race campaign

[Indian Charlie]

yeah, i gotta agree with pg here.

makes no sense to bring a horse off a 5.5 month layoff with the intent of racing him one time and then lay him off again for 5 months!

with that pedigree, i would expect him to keep trying to wrack up easy money stakes wins. i have a feeling that by fall, maybe some of these bad 3yos will be on turf and at least a few will be tougher to beat than what's out there in the current grass division.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

yeah, i gotta agree with pg here.

makes no sense to bring a horse off a 5.5 month layoff with the intent of racing him one time and then lay him off again for 5 months!

with that pedigree, i would expect him to keep trying to wrack up easy money stakes wins. i have a feeling that by fall, maybe some of these bad 3yos will be on turf and at least a few will be tougher to beat than what's out there in the current grass division.

dont you also think he is effective up to a 1 1/8 there are a lot of spots, why not a full campagin ? race every month

[hockey2315]

He's definitely best at a mile. He's gotta be worth something as a stud if he keeps winning G1s.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

He's definitely best at a mile. He's gotta be worth something as a stud if he keeps winning G1s.

maybe like a 3k stud fee ?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

maybe like a 3k stud fee ?

seeing as how his old man stands for more than twice that, i'd say that's pretty low. and if he repeats in the bc?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Danzig

seeing as how his old man stands for more than twice that, i'd say that's pretty low. and if he repeats in the bc?

yea i guess your right, maybe like 10-15, but still why not run him.......once a month for the 2 seassons lay off after bc, come back in the makers, and pick the spots.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by Danzig

seeing as how his old man stands for more than twice that, i'd say that's pretty low. and if he repeats in the bc?

The old man only stands for more because of Kip DeVille. I think he was a $1500 stallion before Kip went on a tear last season. And he was in Oklahoma or something.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Linny

The old man only stands for more because of Kip DeVille. I think he was a $1500 stallion before Kip went on a tear last season. And he was in Oklahoma or something.

yep, i know that. i also know that for a horse standing in the hinterlands, he sired a bc winner. there are horses who spend their days in barns much nicer than most of our houses, with blue blooded mares coming to see them daily who have never done the same.

[hockey2315]

I dunno. Kipling stands for $7500 and he wasn't much of a runner. KD's dam has black type but not much of a ped. I don't think $10K would be unreasonable for a multiple G1 winner.

[SniperSB23]

Isn't this the sort of horse that would have everything to gain and nothing to lose by trying on a synthetic track again, this time on more than 5 days rest? Why not try the Californian again? If it doesn't work you still have three months to the Woodbine Mile.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Isn't this the sort of horse that would have everything to gain and nothing to lose by trying on a synthetic track again, this time on more than 5 days rest? Why not try the Californian again? If it doesn't work you still have three months to the Woodbine Mile.

another great point, then you could be talking breeders cup classic...
especially with everything being so weak... 3yr olds, older horses... everything