curious ruling by the stewards - Kee 5th

GBBob · #1 04-12-2008, 09:50 PM

jeez..would I have been better off not replying?

the_fat_man · #2 04-12-2008, 09:53 PM

At least you're not here arguing that the DQ was the worst of all time.

Scav · #3 04-12-2008, 10:01 PM

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jeez..would I have been better off not replying?

They were talking to Wing...

This DQ was BS anyways, never f'n touched him once, at least from what I saw.....

3kings · #4 04-12-2008, 10:09 PM

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They were talking to Wing...

This DQ was BS anyways, never f'n touched him once, at least from what I saw.....

Scav,
It was a good call.........I had the 10-9 exacta box.........as soon as I saw the head on, I knew I lost.

GBBob · #5 04-12-2008, 10:11 PM

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Scav,
It was a good call.........I had the 10-9 exacta box.........as soon as I saw the head on, I knew I lost.

The real bad bump was at the line though..I know the 10 moved out several times, but do you think the 4 was going to get there?

3kings · #6 04-12-2008, 10:14 PM

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The real bad bump was at the line though..I know the 10 moved out several times, but do you think the 4 was going to get there?

I wasn't positive but Kent D. acted as if the horse was hit by a missile........ went a long way with the stewards IMO........By the way my earlier comment was not intended for you.

GBBob · #7 04-12-2008, 10:17 PM

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I wasn't positive but Kent D. acted as if the horse was hit by a missile........ went a long way with the steweds IMO........By the way my earlier comment was not intended for you.

I know RE Comment...thnx

that was a long conversation they must have had before they posted the change. Funny though..they had the DH up in 15 seconds between the 9 and the 4. Those usually take a while

-BT- · #8 04-12-2008, 11:13 PM

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I wasn't positive but Kent D. acted as if the horse was hit by a missile........ went a long way with the stewards IMO........By the way my earlier comment was not intended for you.

I agree i thought the #10 had some lengths on him, no reason or excuse why Kent didn't wheel his horse inside and go from there, the way Kent was working on his horse he knew he wasn't on a winner down the lane, but my oh my what claim of fouls can do for a jock. Anyone also see the way he eyeballed Lezcano when they crossed the wire, he lookedat him as though Lezcano chopped him off at the legs or something

needless to say i had both the 4 and 10 in that race as the 2nd leg of my pk3 ticket (in which Ruthy completed in the last leg) would have been much better off getting a $15+ horse then catching a $5 DH

just my opinion

by the way, how the hell are ya kings? hows the weather in PITT?

-bt-

Scav · #9 04-12-2008, 11:17 PM

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I agree i thought the #10 had some lengths on him, no reason or excuse why Kent didn't wheel his horse inside and go from there, the way Kent was working on his horse he knew he wasn't on a winner down the lane, but my oh my what claim of fouls can do for a jock. Anyone also see the way he eyeballed Lezcano when they crossed the wire, he lookedat him as though Lezcano chopped him off at the legs or something

needless to say i had both the 4 and 10 in that race as the 2nd leg of my pk3 ticket (in which Ruthy completed in the last leg) would have been much better off getting a $15+ horse then catching a $5 DH

just my opinion

by the way, how the hell are ya kings? hows the weather in PITT?

-bt-

More so, where the hell have you been?

This is exactly what I saw, it was all for an acadamy award....

Scav · #10 04-12-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

Scav,
It was a good call.........I had the 10-9 exacta box.........as soon as I saw the head on, I knew I lost.

Watch the pan angle, he is like a 1.5 lengths in front...It really didn't matter because I got SMOKED today but still, i didn't think he touched him at all, more the 4 trying to win an academy award. i am going to rewatch it in a second to confirm what I saw....I am probably wrong though

ddthetide · #11 04-13-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 3kings

Scav,
It was a good call.........I had the 10-9 exacta box.........as soon as I saw the head on, I knew I lost.

it was a good call. i don't know that i've ever seen 2 horses that close to the grandstand rail. the 10 kept drifting wider and wider.
the head-on was the best view.

jballscalls · #12 04-13-2008, 08:48 AM

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Scav,
It was a good call.........I had the 10-9 exacta box.........as soon as I saw the head on, I knew I lost.

ditto!! it was not a no brainer, but close. proud to say my 3rd time being taken down at Keeneland this meet!!

ateamstupid · #13 04-12-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

They were talking to Wing...

This DQ was BS anyways, never f'n touched him once, at least from what I saw.....

LOL, yeah okay. He drifted so far he damn near hit the outside rail.

Scav · #14 04-12-2008, 10:19 PM

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LOL, yeah okay. He drifted so far he damn near hit the outside rail.

And you can't drift if you are 2 lengths in front? When did he actually IMPEDE the 4?

Before I go any further I am going to rewatch but I thought it was questionable.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #15 04-12-2008, 10:25 PM

the stews had to check thier pick 4 tix........

Scav · #16 04-12-2008, 10:32 PM

I just watched it again. i want everyone to go back and watch the pan-view, NEVER ONCE do they touch. He does drift at the top of the turn and maybe intimidates him but that was very touchy in my opinion.

I had both the 9 and 10 and I wouldn't have hit the exacta any way I looked at it, but I think that was pretty weak. Just because you drift doesn't mean you have to get taken down

AeWingnut · #17 04-12-2008, 10:50 PM

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I just watched it again. i want everyone to go back and watch the pan-view, NEVER ONCE do they touch. He does drift at the top of the turn and maybe intimidates him but that was very touchy in my opinion.

I had both the 9 and 10 and I wouldn't have hit the exacta any way I looked at it, but I think that was pretty weak. Just because you drift doesn't mean you have to get taken down

The 4 was shorter odds.. they were afraid someone was going to eat a bitter pill so they made more people happy and took down that mean ole 7-1 horse.

seriously the horse failed to maintain a straigt course. I've had horses taken down just because a jockey acted surprised when he got passed. Heck, I've had 'em taken down becasue the horse behind them tried running up their backside.. you can't win when it comes to long odd horses and the stewards.

Bigsmc · #18 04-13-2008, 07:26 AM

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I just watched it again. i want everyone to go back and watch the pan-view, NEVER ONCE do they touch. He does drift at the top of the turn and maybe intimidates him but that was very touchy in my opinion.

I had both the 9 and 10 and I wouldn't have hit the exacta any way I looked at it, but I think that was pretty weak. Just because you drift doesn't mean you have to get taken down

I saw him drift live, but saw how far clear he was. Walked away from the TV donated some more at the window. Got $1 hot dog or two. Came back sat down and heard someone bitching about the DQ. I had to ask what track because the 10 was so far clear at Keeneland, I knew it couldn't be there.

My redboard of the day....I played Tampa and Keeneland all day and did not cash one ticket...not one. Can't remember the last time that happened. As Scav would say I got SMOKED.

AeWingnut · #19 04-12-2008, 10:34 PM

I guess if the 10 is committing a foul he doesn't get to decide where he is placed. The 9 shouldn't be penalized at all so.. he gets moved up with the horse that was...

just saying what if the dead heat was for the win and the other horse did nothing wrong should he get taken down...

3kings · #20 04-12-2008, 10:38 PM

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I guess if the 10 is committing a foul he doesn't get to decide where he is placed. The 9 shouldn't be penalized at all so.. he gets moved up with the horse that was...

just saying what if the dead heat was for the win and the other horse did nothing wrong should he get taken down...

There is no other way to do it.........Person at the OTB had 10/all , all/10 he really got screwed.