4/11 (KEE): Maker's Mark Mile (Gr. I)

[brockguy]

surely 1000 words isnt good enough here?? why 9/2 scav

[cakes44]

Scavs, what I want to know is what are the odds of Out of Control getting scratched? That horse will be way overbet just because of Frankel/Gomez. His ability doesn't match up with these and his style of running won't match Keeneland's turf course.

He should be 20/1, but I'm guessing he gets bet down to 6/1 or 7/1 if Frankel actually runs him.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Scavs, what I want to know is what are the odds of Out of Control getting scratched? That horse will be way overbet just because of Frankel/Gomez. His ability doesn't match up with these and his style of running won't match Keeneland's turf course.

He should be 20/1, but I'm guessing he gets bet down to 6/1 or 7/1 if Frankel actually runs him.

i agree, he has taken advantage of some short semi questionable fields out west....

[Scav]

Originally Posted by brockguy

surely 1000 words isnt good enough here?? why 9/2 scav

because people love Frankel and the last was somewhat impressive....

Your the Euro corespondent, she would toss 1000 words?

[brockguy]

1000 Words doesnt scream G1 horse to me, he never has, always came up short against a quality field.. he was a good 2year old but didnt really progress last year, in fact, his last few races in England were shocking..

Frankel does seem to be able to work the oracle on these types though..

[cakes44]

I was just perusing the nominations for this race and noticed Olympic Chief. How/why in the world is he not in this race?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

How has he runs since debuting in last years Arkansas Derby?

I think the Makers Mark would have been a shrewd spot for him to make his turf debut.

[cakes44]

That's what I thought too, drugs. The Chief ran in two MSWs since his debut, and was actually beaten less than a pole in his last. And...as we all know, Davidson knows how to get them to fire huge off the layoff.

[Mike]

I'll be interested on Ruff and Ready's actual odds, might be right there on the lead

[GPK]

Zann at 50-1?? You are more nuts than I thought. 2nd time for KMac and surely didn't have the easiest of trips last out at Gulf. He was 5-1 that day.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by brockguy

1000 Words doesnt scream G1 horse to me, he never has, always came up short against a quality field.. he was a good 2year old but didnt really progress last year, in fact, his last few races in England were shocking..

Frankel does seem to be able to work the oracle on these types though..

He's disappointed me too may times.

Anyway he's scratched.

http://ww2.keeneland.com/racing/List...lItemsalt.aspx

Einstein / Shakis.

[CSC]

I love the theme of this thread, alot of opinions with no clear cut favorite means a fair betting race. I do Cosmonaut if he goes off at the 6 to 1 ML quote.

[wac]

I hate to say it but the weather looks like its gonna awful all weekend here in the Bluegrass state. I wish it wasn't b/c this is a really good field and would love to be able to catch war monger back after that debacle in Calif. Just have to wait and see how things look on Friday.

[Alan07]

If it is off the turf, who would scratch?