Any respect for Pyro now?

[Travis Stone]

Assuming Pyro entered the Derby with the same look/feel as he does now, I think the odds shake-out like this for the top four:

Big Brown: 3-1
Pyro: 4-1
Colonel John: 6-1
War Pass: 7-1

Regardless of your opinion of Big Brown, we have to admit there is a massive amount of buzz about him, and that'll drive his price down.

[ateamstupid]

Why would War Pass be 7/1 when he closed at 14/1 in the Future pool?

I think enough people have soured on him to make him ~ 10/1 on Derby day.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Why would War Pass be 7/1 when he closed at 14/1 in the Future pool?

I think enough people have soured on him to make him ~ 10/1 on Derby day.

I had him at 10-1, but had a hard time figuring out the 4th choice in the wagering. It's a crazy Derby. But also, the Future Pool is more handicappers, the win pool at the Derby is more fans...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Assuming Pyro entered the Derby with the same look/feel as he does now, I think the odds shake-out like this for the top four:

Big Brown: 3-1
Pyro: 4-1
Colonel John: 6-1
War Pass: 7-1

Regardless of your opinion of Big Brown, we have to admit there is a massive amount of buzz about him, and that'll drive his price down.

i'd wait til post-bluegrass before settling on pyros odds. based on right now, yeah i think you're right. he wins saturday, he's the favorite on derby day imo.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'd wait til post-bluegrass before settling on pyros odds. based on right now, yeah i think you're right. he wins saturday, he's the favorite on derby day imo.

I agree, but when has Keeneland produced the big effort? Their races are always tight on the wire. We might end-up learning very little about his development on Saturday if the Blue Grass mirrors last years.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I agree, but when has Keeneland produced the big effort? Their races are always tight on the wire. We might end-up learning very little about his development on Saturday if the Blue Grass mirrors last years.

i just think a win in the bluegrass will drive his odds down. a lot of people have short term memory loss, leaping from horse to horse from week to week as preps are run. pyro will be fresh in everyones minds.
i just wonder how much money recapturetheglory will take come derby day. yikes.