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Old 04-07-2008, 09:46 AM
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i think jess jackson is an old man who would rather have a horse with an earnings record and a legacy to build then wonder 'what if' on his death bed. as for the plaintiffs and midnight cry, i think that's only a small part of the issue. i think bolton and sanan took the money and ran, as it's the same money they'd have gotten with any stud deal. no risk involved.
as for the 20%-the plaintiffs can only touch midnight cry's portion-jackson won't get the other 20% anyway, why would he care who did?
Are you out of your mind in regards to the same amount via a stud deal? Do you realize how much horses make at stud, lets say he stands for 100k to start, and covers 200 mares, all realistic numbers, that is 20 million, IN HIS FIRST YEAR, and lets say he can cover mares for 10 years, that is 200 million, that is 50 million just for 25%, do you realistically think they were bought out for 50 million? And what happens if he turns into a 250k stallion, thus numbers increase by 2.5.....

20% of 200 million is 40 million, 20% of 10 million is 2 million for these plantiffs,
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:06 AM
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...and they would've got away with it too if it wasn't for that meddling scavs!
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:17 AM
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...and they would've got away with it too if it wasn't for that meddling scavs!
LOL....

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Old 04-07-2008, 08:26 PM
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I think the death bed theory sounds great. The man needs not for money . A horse like this comes around ... like how often in anybody's lifetime? He Obviously loves the sport. Plus how much more will that fee be if he keeps on winning? It's the ultimate gamble for an owner. If he breaks down he goes out a legend, and if he keeps running he adds to it. $$$$$$ !
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:20 PM
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Are you out of your mind in regards to the same amount via a stud deal? Do you realize how much horses make at stud, lets say he stands for 100k to start, and covers 200 mares, all realistic numbers, that is 20 million, IN HIS FIRST YEAR, and lets say he can cover mares for 10 years, that is 200 million, that is 50 million just for 25%, do you realistically think they were bought out for 50 million? And what happens if he turns into a 250k stallion, thus numbers increase by 2.5.....

20% of 200 million is 40 million, 20% of 10 million is 2 million for these plantiffs,
i'd imagine jess jackson bought them out for what a stud farm would have bought them out for. obviously not the type of numbers you're putting up there-and you also need to recall when the buyout was done-all the risk at that point was on jackson, none on bolton and sanan.
also, stud fees are based on the first few years, when you 'get out' on a horse. you're seriously telling me that a stud horse makes 200 million in ten years?

also, could you name one proven sire by smart strike?
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:36 PM
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Are you out of your mind in regards to the same amount via a stud deal? Do you realize how much horses make at stud, lets say he stands for 100k to start, and covers 200 mares, all realistic numbers, that is 20 million, IN HIS FIRST YEAR, and lets say he can cover mares for 10 years, that is 200 million, that is 50 million just for 25%, do you realistically think they were bought out for 50 million? And what happens if he turns into a 250k stallion, thus numbers increase by 2.5.....

20% of 200 million is 40 million, 20% of 10 million is 2 million for these plantiffs,
Your numbers are fantasy
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