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Old 04-06-2008, 10:16 AM
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Oaklawn H: Tiago/Heatseeker OP 05 Apr 1 1/8M 110

Carter H: Bustin Stones AQU 05 Apr 7F 109

Excelsior: Temporary Saint AQU 05 Apr 1 1/8M 105

Apple Blossom: Zenyatta (f) OP 05 Apr 1 1/16M 104

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Any figure for Recapturetheglory?
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:00 AM
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Any figure for Recapturetheglory?
102

Tale of Ekati/War Pass coming back as a 93.
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:13 PM
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Apparently in the 102.
The Ill Derby has a history of front end winners producing crazy fast figures.

* Last year, Cowtown Cat went wire-to-wire and was given just a 98 Beyer figure after running a time that suggested he ran significantly faster. BRIS didn't adjust there figure...and had him running faster than Holy Bull ever had on there numbers - he went on to finish 20th in the Derby while having the highest last out BRIS fig in the entire field.

* Two years ago, Sweetnorthersaint sat second less than a length off of pace setter Mr. Triester (who stayed on to finish 2nd) - he put him away, won by 9, got huge figures from all figure makers and was bet to Derby favortisim.

* Three years ago, Greeley's Galazy stalked the pace from up close and won with a 106 Beyer that might have been reduced a little if I recall. He never ran back to it.

* Four years ago, Pollards Vision went wire-to-wire and ran a 107 Beyer. He returned to run 17th beaten 40 lengths in the Derby.

War Emblem famously won the Ill Derby wire-to-wire and earned a huge figure - but his win came at Sportsman's Park and not Hawthorne I believe.

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Old 04-06-2008, 05:32 PM
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It's interesting. I long ago stopped considering figures as "objective", but rather an, "educated comparative evaluation of performance".
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:15 AM
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The Ill Derby has a history of front end winners producing crazy fast figures.

* Last year, Cowtown Cat went wire-to-wire and was given just a 98 Beyer figure after running a time that suggested he ran significantly faster. BRIS didn't adjust there figure...and had him running faster than Holy Bull ever had on there numbers - he went on to finish 20th in the Derby while having the highest last out BRIS fig in the entire field.

* Two years ago, Sweetnorthersaint sat second less than a length off of pace setter Mr. Triester (who stayed on to finish 2nd) - he put him away, won by 9, got huge figures from all figure makers and was bet to Derby favortisim.

* Three years ago, Greeley's Galazy stalked the pace from up close and won with a 106 Beyer that might have been reduced a little if I recall. He never ran back to it.

* Four years ago, Pollards Vision went wire-to-wire and ran a 107 Beyer. He returned to run 17th beaten 40 lengths in the Derby.

War Emblem famously won the Ill Derby wire-to-wire and earned a huge figure - but his win came at Sportsman's Park and not Hawthorne I believe.
Agreed- and I don't think this one has much of a chance either. Was my one winner from Saturday and salvaged a pretty miserable day of betting the tires @ Kee.

War Emblem's win was at Sportsman's Park, yes. I think they paved the track over and made it into auto racing- I remember driving by it a long time ago on the Stevenson Expressway. Looked like a real dump.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:42 AM
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Arcadia: Daytona 103

IL Derby: Recapturetheglory 102

Pan American: Precious Passion 97

Protero Grande: Greg's Gold 97

SA Derby: Colonel John 95

Wood: Tale of Ekati 93

Ashland: Little Belle/Bsharpsonata 88

Providencia: Missit 84
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:14 AM
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I assume nothing on the Fantasy yet?
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:18 AM
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Eight Belles got a 99 for the Fantasy
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:38 PM
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Agreed- and I don't think this one has much of a chance either. Was my one winner from Saturday and salvaged a pretty miserable day of betting the tires @ Kee.

War Emblem's win was at Sportsman's Park, yes. I think they paved the track over and made it into auto racing- I remember driving by it a long time ago on the Stevenson Expressway. Looked like a real dump.
You can't see Hawthorne (or Sportsman's when it existed) from the Stevenson Expressway. You've got to exit on Cicero and go thru a beautiful stretch of real estate in Cicero. At least now they've put in a few strip malls near the track. The area was even worse before.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:58 PM
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You can't see Hawthorne (or Sportsman's when it existed) from the Stevenson Expressway. You've got to exit on Cicero and go thru a beautiful stretch of real estate in Cicero. At least now they've put in a few strip malls near the track. The area was even worse before.
I guess we had gotten off the expressway and gone up Cicero Ave. My mom's best friend lived in Forest Park (now in Wheeling). Don't remember the area around there too well though...
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