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Old 04-05-2008, 08:18 AM
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You must be a polytrack fan....Your judging the race just as those who judge flat racing here as being barbaric and cruel. No difference.
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I'm inclined to state that this race should be abolished. It is barbaric and cruel. As adults I think we should know better than to support this blood race.
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:29 AM
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with National Hunt racing, you still have so much in what is great about racing, horses racing from say 4 until 12, 8, 9 seasons of seeing a horse run, no retiring for breeding interests, real small town owners, trainers, hard as nails jockeys..

if and when im rich enough, id invite anyone sceptical about jump racing to come over here and spend the winter months following the sport...
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:30 AM
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Default Grand National Form - 24 pages

http://www.attheraces.com/images/pdf...onal415Sat.pdf
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:32 AM
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Small action each way bets on:

11 - Butler Cabin - 16-1
24 - Baily Breeze - 66-1
35 - Kelami - 40-1
39 - Philson Run - 25-1
40 - Dun Doire - 25-1
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:56 AM
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Snowing Morning
Point Barrow
Philson Run

Could only bet to win at Bodog..So Bigs let's route this Philson Run home!


Also, thanks for the live video tout to watch this..awesome!

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Old 04-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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Snowing Morning
Point Barrow
Philson Run

Could only bet to win at Bodog..So Bigs let's route this Philson Run home!


Also, thanks for the live video tout to watch this..awesome!

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Im on the Philson Run Bandwagon too..
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:21 AM
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Snowing Morning
Point Barrow
Philson Run

Could only bet to win at Bodog..So Bigs let's route this Philson Run home!


Also, thanks for the live video tout to watch this..awesome!

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I'm a little leery of the free video offered at Racing post. It says it's free, but I'm afraid it may not be for people in the States. I guess we'll find out nearer to post time. If someone else has a site, it wouldn't hurt to have a backup.

Oh and go Philson....
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:19 AM
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I'm a little leery of the free video offered at Racing post. It says it's free, but I'm afraid it may not be for people in the States. I guess we'll find out nearer to post time. If someone else has a site, it wouldn't hurt to have a backup.

Oh and go Philson....

Looks like it may work. This is what the video says right now.


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This page will automatically display the live video once the broadcast starts. Races are shown from three minutes before the scheduled off time.

This race will broadcast from: 4:12pm on April 05 and starts in: 53 mins
*edit* It is working! racingpost.co.uk

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Old 04-05-2008, 11:26 AM
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33 - Comply or Die wins it - 7-1 Chalk.
27 - King Johns Castle
16 - Snowy Morning
12 - Slim Pickings
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:18 PM
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King Johns Castle looked like a huge threat jumping the last, but Timmy Murphy had alot still left in the tank on the fav.

A sad postscript to the race was the fatal fall of McKelvey...
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:50 PM
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You must be a polytrack fan....Your judging the race just as those who judge flat racing here as being barbaric and cruel. No difference.
I'm entitled to my opinion and you can have yours. I don't have to repeat my opinion again and again. Shame on those, including you, that support this blood lust.
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:52 PM
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I'm entitled to my opinion and you can have yours. I don't have to repeat my opinion again and again. Shame on those, including you, that support this blood lust.
But you do.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:53 PM
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McKelvey had become something of a TV star as he had been featured on a Prime Time BBC1 magazine show "The One Show"

A webcam was installed in his box and I think viewers could watch him 24/7 on the BBC website.

The show is watched by millions and the presenters will have a difficult task when the show returns on Monday evening.
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:35 PM
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I'm entitled to my opinion and you can have yours. I don't have to repeat my opinion again and again. Shame on those, including you, that support this blood lust.
If you bet on horse racing you're just as guilty. For you to make the distinction between the Grand National and the races you bet is not only judgemental but wrong. I bet more horses have broken down in races you've bet than the Grand National. If that's true the blood lust as you say is one you.

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Old 04-05-2008, 10:08 PM
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If you bet on horse racing you're just as guilty. For you to make the distinction between the Grand National and the races you bet is not only judgemental but wrong. I bet more horses have broken down in races you've bet than the Grand National. If that's true the blood lust as you say is one you.

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Spyder...I'm treading lightly here because I truly know very little about this race, but isn't it a given that at least one horse is going to break every year? I understand the passion for effort, etc, but if here was one T-Bred race that every year there was a death, wouldn't that race be heavily criticized?
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someone told me that McKelvey wasnt put down as one might suspect from the fall, but by colliding with a barrier afterwards.. There is constant ongoing work involved trying to make the racecourse much safer for loose horses..

Im certainly of the opinion that steeplechase racing prolongs the life of many horses who are deemed not to be so good on the flat and could just be discarded with. Our champion hurdle winner, Katchit was a very moderate flat horse who with a great heart and superb jumping technique won the best hurdle race at Cheltenham. If there was no jump racing, there is no telling where he could be now..
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McKelvey was put down after striking a rail/barrier as brock said, not as a result of a fall in the race itself. A very unfortunate incident.

It's the only race I get nervous about watching, and over recent years I cannot look at the TV until they have jumped the first fence. That charge to the first is scary.

Comply Or Die was the horse for me yesterday, he ticked all the right boxes and he could be the sort of horse to come back and win it again next year. He has always been a safe jumper, and as he showed in the eider, he stays very well.

It was between him and Bewley's Berry for me yesterday.
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