Dude is pregnant!!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

He was on Oprah yesterday with his wife and her two daughters from a previous marriage.

It was actually really interesting because Thomas's story was very different from most transgender folk. He never felt like he was trapped in the wrong body or born the "wrong sex," but it was a different sort of thing that led to his decision to take hormones and live as a man.

Of course, something tells me that most people talking about this around the country and responding to this here didn't watch Oprah or haven't bothered to really find out what these two people are all about, because screaming DUDE IS PREGNANT SICKKKKZKZZZZZZ!!!!! is more effective in the realm of hysterics.

I don't know how I feel about the whole thing, but I'm not inclined to be very worried about it.

Agree with Brian here.

I knew this was gonna happen sometime.

Part of our identity as humans is quite clearly
influenced by our sex. So this female takes testosterone.
And then stops taking it and gets inseminated.
This was very well thought out.


Good luck to the kid.
Dad is mom.
What do you tell your kid?

I have a very stable male identity. She/he says
Stable male identity...
What the hell does that mean?

The birds and the bees speech to
this prospective little girl is going to be very
interesting.

My initial reaction is its not gonna
be easy on this kid at all. And that is
not good.

Oprah: "a new definition of what diversity means for everybody."

A new definition of diversity...
Diversity. Thank you Oprah.
There is a species of single celled organisms
that have 14 different sexes within the species.
There are some fairly interesting mating rules within
these organisms. Maybe Oprah should study these
creatures if she is interested in experimenting with
diversity.

Thanks for breaking new ground with me Dad...
You went and did this so I could explain to everyone
what I plan to be. There should be no ill consequences
as long as I have a loving family. errrr....Maybe not.

Love, Your Baby Girl (maybe, I'm not sure since I got
the choice).

Sorry to sound a little old fashioned here but
this little girl has been put in a very difficult
spot. Cant wait till mom(who is female) decides whether
to have a boy or girl.

Lets get the girls together and have an artificial
insemination party, I got these really pretty napkins
for the snacks.

Biology getting ahead of ethical considerations again.
This is not an issue of rights. Its more parental responsibility.
We already have enough trouble with parental responsibility.
I dont like to experiment with the children.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't suppose the kid could turn out just fine right? I mean isn't at least possible the parents will do a good job and really isn't that what is important here? There are certainly plenty of "traditional" parents that suck, so I could really care less what sex the parents of a kid are, as long as they do a good job.

Here's a novel idea.....tell the kid the truth. I doubt they'll mind as long as they're loved.

Sure.
The kid could turn out absolutely fine.
And I posted we already have enough problems with parents.

So why not just make it a little more novel.
Make it a little tougher on the kid.
Thats a good idea.

And they go on Oprah of course and received
no compensation. Perfectly normal. Share
your story. Get it out. Cash call.
Make your kid and family instant celebrities.
Excellent.

[The Bid]

I dont get it. Whats wrong with a transgender woman, whos now a man, being pregnant, and giving birth?

Look at it from the kids point of view, its not difficult to explain that your dad birthed you. Where do people get off thinking its a big deal if a kids father gives birth?

Will the dad breastfeed him? Is thats what next, some transgender fruitcake trying to breastfeed their child in public? Then I suppose there will be an outrage from all the liberals when people are offended by it.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I dont get it. Whats wrong with a transgender woman, whos now a man, being pregnant, and giving birth?

Look at it from the kids point of view, its not difficult to explain that your dad birthed you. Where do people get off thinking its a big deal if a kids father gives birth?

Will the dad breastfeed him? Is thats what next, some transgender fruitcake trying to breastfeed their child in public? Then I suppose there will be an outrage from all the liberals when people are offended by it.

On second thought, I've seen how wrong my thought was. You and Pgardn are right.

Every
child
deserves
a mother
and a father.

You know, I get some objections. I really do. But on the other hand, I'm sick and tired of listening to people who have f*cked something up get all up in arms when someone else wants in. Gays want to get married? Nope, can't have it, it will ruin marriage. Obviously, unlike the 50% divorce rate ruins marriage. You want to have a child in an unorthodox fashion? Nope, can't have it, every child deserves a mother and a father.

When you suck at doing something, you don't get to play the moral relativity card and pretend that you have any right to tell anyone else they can't have it or can't do it.

Unless, of course, you're a self-righteous prick, then it's probably just standard operating procedure.

Nuff said.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

If he was born a female than he is a female.

[onebadbeast]

you had me worried that i was pregnant when u said dude!
we got one of these guys? or gal he wants to be called, at our workplace, even goes in the womens restroom, i shouldve used that line to get in years ago. but i think he is just klinger.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

On second thought, I've seen how wrong my thought was. You and Pgardn are right.

Every
child
deserves
a mother
and a father.

You know, I get some objections. I really do. But on the other hand, I'm sick and tired of listening to people who have f*cked something up get all up in arms when someone else wants in. Gays want to get married? Nope, can't have it, it will ruin marriage. Obviously, unlike the 50% divorce rate ruins marriage. You want to have a child in an unorthodox fashion? Nope, can't have it, every child deserves a mother and a father.

When you suck at doing something, you don't get to play the moral relativity card and pretend that you have any right to tell anyone else they can't have it or can't do it.

Unless, of course, you're a self-righteous prick, then it's probably just standard operating procedure.

Nuff said.

Why in the world do you
go on Oprah to get this out
in the open?

That tells me something about
the parent's decision making here.
I have no problem with the kid having
two people to take care of her.

But one has to question their entire
reasoning for having this child. And Oprah
stating this is a lesson in diversity? She is
not stumping for Obama here. What the
heck does this have to do with diversity?
Its not like this is a new race of people.

Publicity stunt with money involved.
Thats certainly the way to start off
with a child.

[MaTH716]

This is why the kid can't have a normal life. The whole world knows what the situation is. The kid will always be labeled as "the first child to be delivered by their father". The world knows the way she was concieved. There will always be some kind of media exposure about the kid. If the parents stayed quiet, then there would have been a chance that it could have been a normal situation. I just think the parents are out for a big payday. Already on Oprah and betting that magazines like people will pay big dollars for the first baby pictures.