3-yr-old Eclipse Award prop at Pinnacle

[Scav]

Originally Posted by boldruler

This is an odd bet. Basically they are giving you even money on Bernardini in the Travers because a Travers win will make him 3yr old of the year. There is no way the limit ever goes up. Nobody will take the Barbaro side of the action no matter what the odds.

Seriously? there is no way that the Travers locks up 3 year old of the year, your nuts....they both would have won two grade 1's, one against 20 horses and 10 horses and the other will win two of them with 10 horses combined in two races

Bernendini has to win the BC Classic to win 3 year old of the year, and EVEN then, he might not win that because they might give Barbaro 3 year old of the year and Bernendini Horse of the year

Scav, has a horse ever won horse of the year without winning the Eclipse for his own division? If so you might be right, they would love to give Barbaro an Eclipse without leaving out Bernardini, assuming he keeps dominating.

[Scav]

I swear it happened last year or the year before.....Sprinter of the year and 3 year old of the year or something(Lost in the Fog maybe?)

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Scav

Seriously? there is no way that the Travers locks up 3 year old of the year, your nuts....they both would have won two grade 1's, one against 20 horses and 10 horses and the other will win two of them with 10 horses combined in two races

Bernendini has to win the BC Classic to win 3 year old of the year, and EVEN then, he might not win that because they might give Barbaro 3 year old of the year and Bernendini Horse of the year

Bernardini has to win the Travers, obviously, but I don't think he has to win the Classic. If he beats older horses once and runs well in the Classic, he has a shot. I just don't understand how one horse can get the 3 year old Eclipse and one HOY... makes no sense to me.

[hockey2315]

2 things I'd like to correct/comment on-

Someone said that Bernardini is undefeated- he's not - I'm not sure if he lost at age 2 or 3 (I don't think he raced @ 2 but could be wrong) - but he lost in an allowance race- i believe it was his first race whenever it was- no matter when it was, Barbaro is undefeated for the sake of argument and Bernardini is not.

The NTRA poll is also totally misleading because, obviously, some voters stopped voting for Barbaro as soon as he got hurt because even if he is/was the best 3 y.o. or horse of any age, it wouldn't matter because he's retired. Even though the poll may usually be a good indicator of how the awards go, it's totally skewed this year.

[hockey2315]

O and boldruler- why does it matter what surface showing up is better on? Barbaro was better than him on both. And correct me if I'm wrong (I really don't know, not being sarcastic)- it's 3 y.o. of the year, right? Not 3 y.o. dirt horse of the year.