Cleveland Indians

[Mortimer]

You are an idiot.







Let me repeat that one.








You are an idiot.









At times I will fucl< around.












I don't think a whole lot of Brown...but we have had worse. I was kidding with Bidster,but would not argue with him as he does have brainage----does not suffer from vapor lock.




Let me state something very clearly....the Cavaliers won the East last year because they were the best team. They had a good group behind a superstar. They did not beat SA because SA is better.


This year they have been riddled with injury.What happened last night I don't know ,not having seen it.All I do know is superstar Garnett could not do much with a lowly supporting cast. James does not have that....and hasn't had that.He's had a pretty good overall cast.Some day you just might understand James is part of the solution here as he is part of the problem,but you really are too stupid to wrap around that enigma.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

You are an idiot.







Let me repeat that one.








You are an idiot.









At times I will fucl< around.












I don't think a whole lot of Brown...but we have had worse. I was kidding with Bidster,but would not argue with him as he does have brainage----does not suffer from vapor lock.




Let me state something very clearly....the Cavaliers won the East last year because they were the best team. They had a good group behind a superstar. They did not beat SA because SA is better.


This year they have been riddled with injury.What happened last night I don't know ,not having seen it.All I do know is superstar Garnett could not do much with a lowly supporting cast. James does not have that....and hasn't had that.He's had a pretty good overall cast.Some day you just might understand James is part of the solution here as he is part of the problem,but you really are too stupid to wrap around that enigma.

I respond to you to provide balance and nothing more. I understand what you're saying. I am not too stupid to wrap around anything. I am simply not going to state that James came into a model franchise and their system simply elevated him to a conference champion last year. That is almost what you insinuate by your nonsense on this subject. I know what that franchise was before James came the previous 10 years. It was a disgrace. No, they could not have reached the finals last year without 11 other guys on the team. Those 11 other guys provided decent play for the most part...but also not at times. James played poor games at times as well, but usually not. He is simply a part...but he is the MAIN part to the revival of a completely hideous franchise.

I mean, Frank Ryan, Gary Collins, Paul Warfield, Gene Hickerson et al were all very key components on the last Cleveland champion in 1964...but let's not kid ourselves on who the MAIN part of that franchise was. They won the title in '64, played for the title in '65 then the guy retired. That team has yet to play in another championship game.

It is quite comical to read your postings on this guy when you had 35 years to witness the Cavalier franchise before James joined the franchise and after.

(let's not kid ourselves Avery, it is not I with the problem. I have not started a single thread on LeBron James on this forum. Have you??) ...I am simply a responder! I get it, you don't think highly of the guy.

[The Bid]

Mike Brown **** the bed again at home. Yesterdays game with the Magic was just a sign of whats to come in the first round of the playoffs.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I respond to you to provide balance and nothing more. I understand what you're saying. I am not too stupid to wrap around anything. I am simply not going to state that James came into a model franchise and their system simply elevated him to a conference champion last year. That is almost what you insinuate by your nonsense on this subject. I know what that franchise was before James came the previous 10 years. It was a disgrace. No, they could not have reached the finals last year without 11 other guys on the team. Those 11 other guys provided decent play for the most part...but also not at times. James played poor games at times as well, but usually not. He is simply a part...but he is the MAIN part to the revival of a completely hideous franchise.

I mean, Frank Ryan, Gary Collins, Paul Warfield, Gene Hickerson et al were all very key components on the last Cleveland champion in 1964...but let's not kid ourselves on who the MAIN part of that franchise was. They won the title in '64, played for the title in '65 then the guy retired. That team has yet to play in another championship game.

It is quite comical to read your postings on this guy when you had 35 years to witness the Cavalier franchise before James joined the franchise and after.

(let's not kid ourselves Avery, it is not I with the problem. I have not started a single thread on LeBron James on this forum. Have you??) ...I am simply a responder! I get it, you don't think highly of the guy.

I can only simply state , once again, that if you were the brightest bulb in the bank--------- night baseball could not exist.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

I can only simply state , once again, that if you were the brightest bulb in the bank--------- night baseball could not exist.

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[horseofcourse]

I've missed ya Avery how's it going?? Classic borowski meltdown a couple nights ago. Good for the team however...every time he had one last year...the team would respond and win the next game and pretty regularly for a couple weeks.

They're struggling with the sticks again...reminds of the July to Mid August period last year when they completely stopped hitting. Of course they look like the '27 Yankees compared to the Tiggers!!!

[Mortimer]

That was a beauty all right.


The hitting shut down certainly is a major concern given the guaranteed black hole in left field.


Another guarantee----Sabbathia is melting from the contact pressure. He should have a really stinky-poo year.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

That was a beauty all right.


The hitting shut down certainly is a major concern given the guaranteed black hole in left field.


Another guarantee----Sabbathia is melting from the contact pressure. He should have a really stinky-poo year.

No...he's never had one of those ever. He may win 13 games with a 4 ERA...but his track record suggests he won't stink considering he never has...unless he's injured. He's not the best "pressure" pitcher in the game based on his post season last year, but hard for me to imagine a complete bad year for him. Guess it's possible he could start pressing the more mediocre to bad starts he has.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

May I suggest a letter to Annie?----you ca-ca head

[The Bid]

I bring Brown and Lucas to the wire together. Infact I liked Lucas more because he had personalized sewn in initials on all his suits where cufflinks should be.

Look at this line up

Pat Corrales
Doc Edwards
Johnny Mac
Joel Skinner
Charlie Manuel.

John Lukas
Randy Wittman
Paul Silas
Mike Brown

That may be the worst group of coaches any city has ever had.

[Mortimer]

Well it ain't exactly the best.

[The Bid]

Its shockingly horrible. I didnt realize how bad until I started to think about it

Im not going to get upset over it, Im putting all my eggs in this basket and riding it out
http://www.clevelandgladiators.com/

[Mortimer]

Really...don't think about it. The pain will be too much to bear.

[The Bid]

Its more than any fan should ever be dealt. Its been a downward spiral since the Force went under.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I bring Brown and Lucas to the wire together. Infact I liked Lucas more because he had personalized sewn in initials on all his suits where cufflinks should be.

Look at this line up

Pat Corrales
Doc Edwards
Johnny Mac
Joel Skinner
Charlie Manuel.

John Lukas
Randy Wittman
Paul Silas
Mike Brown

That may be the worst group of coaches any city has ever had.

Don't you think Buddy Bell should have had a chance? He was one of the classiest Injuns ever and got stuck in KC w/ perhaps the worse talent and cheapest organization in MLB at the time.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Don't you think Buddy Bell should have had a chance? He was one of the classiest Injuns ever and got stuck in KC w/ perhaps the worse talent and cheapest organization in MLB at the time.

OOOOOOOOOO

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

OOOOOOOOOO

look..I can't believe I'm actually talking Indian's baseball here

next up...Gaylord Perry

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GBBob

look..I can't believe I'm actually talking Indian's baseball here

next up...Gaylord Perry

Or Joe Boooo

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by GBBob

look..I can't believe I'm actually talking Indian's baseball here

next up...Gaylord Perry

Many would say you're not.



Perry wasn't even the best pitcher of that 35 Year Era from Hell.